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Millet
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Posted: Tue 02 Feb, 2010 2:07 am

The UBC Forum, which many members of this forum were also members, is discontinuing operation as of Feb. 9, 2010. They will be missed.
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JoeReal
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Posted: Tue 02 Feb, 2010 3:28 am

Can we open up a special sub forum for them here? That way it would be easier to answer specific to their needs.
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Millet
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Posted: Tue 02 Feb, 2010 3:41 am

My last post on the UBC forum was a invitation to join The Citrus Growers Forum. I left a link to his forum. - Millet (1,083-)
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snickles
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Posted: Tue 02 Feb, 2010 4:28 pm

Perhaps we can request a copy or permission to make a copy of all of the Citrus related threads and replies to be included in this forum. I realize there will be some redundancies of topics but not all of the information in the UBC forum is "old hat" for this forum. Diverse opinions on plants are much needed and in my mind should be openly supported based on how we want to grow the plant, how we can grow the plant and the variables of where we choose to grow the plant which may and can differ among us depending on our location.

I think the moderators of this forum can receive permission from the UBC forum administrators to make a copy of all of the Citrus related proceedings in the UBC Citrus forum.

Note: I know of one certain very recent Citrus identification in Fiji thread in the UBC ID forum that would also make a good addition in this forum for comment or prospective ideas as to the number of Citrus that have the winged petiole or the bi-leaf as some people around here used to call it.

If we "go back in" and take a look at the Citrus that is grown in Fiji, we may have a better idea as to what the seedling might be based on the leaf structure of it so far. Few people have ever studied the shapes of the wings themselves, how much they flare out (on a typical leaf) and the surface texture of the petiole and the accompanying leaf or the width of the connector that binds the winged petiole to the auxiliary leaf. It may seem inconsequential for many but in some select cases of identification these traits may come in handy to know when we want to compare one form of Citrus to another. Even related Citrus such as the Sarawak Tahitian Pummelo (VI 414) to the Tahitian Pummelo (VI 342). As an example of how subtle differences can come into play we can ask which of the above Pummelo shares the same or more similar leaf shape to the Thong Dee Pummelo (VI 569)? Once we know how to determine which Pummelo is which in leaf, we have a greater chance of being right when we see one grown elsewhere that puzzles us. That should mean something as opposed to waiting for who knows how long to see a seedling tree flower and set fruit to better tell us what it is or perhaps may be.

Jim (mr.shep)

PS, not all of the more recent posters and Citrus thread starter members of the UBC forum are also members of this forum.
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turtleman
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Posted: Tue 02 Feb, 2010 9:39 pm

Maybe they'd like to use RSI Growers forum also,
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Junglekeeper
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Location: Vancouver BC Canada

Posted: Tue 02 Feb, 2010 9:58 pm

Daniel's response to the question "So I am guessing the conversations will close.Will it still be a forum as far as forums go, or read only?" in this post,
Quote:
Anything in "For Registered Members Only" is slated to be archived (read only by registered members).

The citrus forum falls into that category.

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snickles
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Posted: Wed 03 Feb, 2010 12:04 am

The problem with that Junglekeeper is how long
will the information be archived and what happens
to that information after a decision has been made
to no longer let the information stay located on a
system or server hard drive. It is not so much
what little I added to the discussion on Citrus
that matters. It is what others, you yourself
included, offered as information, especially
for in the home container growing that will
certainly be wanted by a lot of people that
may not ever be able to read or have access
to that information now. Once that information
is lost or deleted from a hard drive, it is gone
and in my opinion is too valuable to have
someone else determine what is of value
to them and what isn't. Someone that is
not growing Citrus or does not have interest
in Citrus will not have the same outlook as
someone that is growing or wanting to grow
Citrus will have. We’ve been plagued long
enough not having access to old information
that was second nature to a lot of people in
Citrus years ago that is not so easily found
online and offline either or is known much
about today as it is.

Jim
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Junglekeeper
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Posted: Wed 03 Feb, 2010 12:35 am

Point taken, Jim. It comes down to a matter of control of the information.

snickles wrote:
Perhaps we can request a copy or permission to make a copy of all of the Citrus related threads and replies to be included in this forum...I think the moderators of this forum can receive permission from the UBC forum administrators to make a copy of all of the Citrus related proceedings in the UBC Citrus forum.
If the moderators put together a proposal, I or another UBC member can forward it to Daniel for consideration.

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Millet
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Posted: Wed 10 Feb, 2010 1:15 am

I spent an evening deleting all my posts that I have ever written on the UBC forum, as I did not want them in the UBC archives. However, after a while with postings that are too old, the edit function no longer is available. So the really old posts cannot be deleted. Seems strange. - Millet (1,071-)
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Junglekeeper
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Posted: Fri 12 Feb, 2010 12:24 am

Daniel has kindly posted a recommendation for UBC members to use these forums when the citrus forum there closes later this month: http://www.ubcbotanicalgarden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=60964

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Mark_T
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Posted: Fri 12 Feb, 2010 2:14 am

Millet wrote:
I spent an evening deleting all my posts that I have ever written on the UBC forum, as I did not want them in the UBC archives. However, after a while with postings that are too old, the edit function no longer is available. So the really old posts cannot be deleted. Seems strange. - Millet (1,071-)


I've read many of them. Very Happy
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