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Radoslav
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Posted: Sun 27 Oct, 2013 12:47 pm

For the first time, I had flowers on some of my annona seedlings:

annona muricata

annona cornifolia

I had also flowers on my annona scleroderma seedling for the first time.

First crop on my kaki cv. Hana Fuyu tree in pot:

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Sven_limoen
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Location: Vlaams-Brabant, Belgium, Zone 8

Posted: Sun 27 Oct, 2013 5:19 pm

Very nice! Are these hard to grow outside? I've found annona and kaki seeds online but for annona they mention that it might be tricky growing them and when doing a research for kaki I found that it is best to look for a plant which has another kaki rootstock for better resistance against cold.

What do you think about that?

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Radoslav
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Posted: Mon 28 Oct, 2013 4:12 am

No, those annonas are not frost resistant (tropical or subtropical plants). Only one species in the same plant family - the Annonaceae - asimina triloba (paw paw) can withstand frost in our conditions.
Kakis are questionable - I am overwintering them together with citruses. I now some cases outdoor, but it always risk. It can withstand one winter with some protection and can be killed the next winter.
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Sven_limoen
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Posted: Mon 28 Oct, 2013 8:49 am

I see. Thanks for the reply. No annonas nor kaki's for me then :d

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Ivannn
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Posted: Mon 28 Oct, 2013 4:45 pm

Beautiful plants, congratulations!
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Radoslav
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Posted: Tue 29 Oct, 2013 1:50 pm

Eugenia neonitida - Pitangatuba
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Sven_limoen
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Posted: Wed 30 Oct, 2013 5:55 pm

I think I have a better chance for the kaki's. I thought Slovakia was zone 8 as well. My mistake :d

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Radoslav
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Posted: Thu 31 Oct, 2013 4:37 am

There are also some hybrids of Diospyros kaki x Diospyros virginiana with higher frost resistance, like

Diospyros virginiana x Diospyros kaki 'Geneva Long'
Diospyros virginiana x Diospyros kaki 'Nikitas Gift'
Diospyros virginiana x Diospyros kaki 'Rosseyanka' etc.
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jm
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Posted: Fri 24 Jan, 2014 10:54 am

In Europe, kakis are usually grafted onto diospyros lotus rootstocks. They are grafted onto diospyros kaki only in case of incompatibility with d. lotus.

I have read that kakis on diospyros virginiana are short lived.
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