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Posted: Fri 25 May, 2007 12:40 pm

I tried Joe's bark graft technique on my sister's satsuma this week. I put 2 Nules clementines on an Owari -- I sure hope they take-- they are my favorite citrus. It will be interesting to compare the flavor of the Nules grown here to those from Spain.

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Posted: Sun 27 May, 2007 5:00 am

My 'Joe's clemenule from Spain' was easily bark- grafted to my Chandler pomelo, Eureka lemon, and lisbon lemon.
Was not a success on page, calamondin and W. Murcott.
The most vigorous of all are on Chandler.
You will be surprise the flavor is juicy and very sweet. Amazing. It is my priced mandarin of them all.
Here's a sample

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Posted: Sun 27 May, 2007 12:19 pm

I hope it takes on Satsuma-- that is the only tree my sister has and I can't bring them into Florida to put on my trees.

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Posted: Sun 27 May, 2007 12:36 pm

Here’s a dissected clemenule fruit. As you will notice it was not even fully ripe yet. There’s still a tint of green on the skin but is was so sweet already and very juicy.. You won’t be able to stop eating.



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Skeet why don't you graft it on your own tree? You won't be sorry.
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Posted: Sun 27 May, 2007 11:59 pm

Hi Benny, I would love to put some on my tree, but it would be illegal to bring the budwood into Florida--I have several brothers and sisters over in Alabama-- only about 40 to 50 miles west. Two of my sisters and one of my nephews have several citrus trees and have asked me to graft them some additional varieties on their trees. Joe sent some budwood to my sister and I will be adding several other varieties over the next few weeks as I get time when I am over there.

Of course, I will help them pick the fruit!

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Posted: Sat 30 Jun, 2007 9:15 pm

I tried 3 more bark grafts on my sister's tree (Vicki's) over in Alabama --I also found 4 successful T-buds over there that I had forgotten about-- 3 Tarocco Blood Oranges and one Pomello. The Taroccos are on 2 different trees. I tried a couple more T-buds as well today-- Variegated pink lemon and a eureka lemon on the satsuma.

I tried 2 more Nules using the bark graft on the Satsumas and I put a mandrinquat on the kumquat with a bark graft. I used foil on all of the bark grafts, so maybe they will make it this time.

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Posted: Sat 30 Jun, 2007 10:39 pm

Bark grafting Clemenules unto grapefruits or pummelos are always more successful than doing it on mandarins or tangerines.

Satsumas are also very picky. You will have to get perfect timing for it to take. Even though the barks are slipping very well, they will not take. I am still trying to pin down that perfect timing as to what clues should there be. One summer, I grafted almost any citruses to my satsuma, they all took, even though some were very sloppy, the next summer, grafted other citruses, no matte how careful I was, most of them died out, but of course during the fall, they all took again. So grafting unto Satsuma is really difficult if the timing is not proper.

I might get some grapefruit seedlings next time to graft most citruses for propagation.
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Posted: Sun 01 Jul, 2007 5:40 pm

Joe:
You are right on to your wordings.
I have the same experience.
That's why I am inundating my Chandler with toothpick size clemenules you gave.
I have no success grafting my nules to mandarins so I gave up long time ago. I tried grafting the to my Page, Satsuma ,W. Murcott but no luck.
Just this morning I grafted 5 more nules to my Chandler. Theyare all growing beautifully.
Also I find out that the plout can easily take Blynhym and Tilton apricot so I am doing a lot of grafting on that also.
Also since it is taking green gage plum graft, I started to cut some branches on my European plums and grafted them to my plout and matued satsuma plum.
And I harvested all of my prince Ranier cherries yesterday and you indicated you want some branches. Let me know when you want them.

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Posted: Sun 01 Jul, 2007 10:19 pm

That could be the reason for many of my bark graft failures-- that and grafting in the rain would explain almost all of them.

Can I use the pomello bud that I just grafted as an interstock between the satsuma and the nules? I just started trying to force it.

I can try again on my sister Beth's grapefruit, but I am getting low on Nules stock-- hopefully one of the ones I have already grafted will take.

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Posted: Thu 19 Jul, 2007 11:59 am

I think the fact that I was trying to put the Nules on Satsuma may have been a big part of the reason my bark grafts were failing. I seem to be having some bark grafting success with an Owari I put on a trifoliate and the calamondin shoot I broke off and put on my lemon. The Owari has been on for a couple weeks and the calamondin for about 1 week, but all are still green-- no buds yet, but I am hopeful.

The fact that we are finally getting some rain and the trees are no longer drought stressed may be a factor as well.

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