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joeb
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Location: Statesboro, Ga. zone 8b

Posted: Tue 19 Oct, 2010 1:05 am

Picked my first satsuma today! I was thrilled to eat my first citrus that I planted and cared for. It was great and it was not even fully ripe. I left about a dozen fruits on my trees this first year just to see what they would be like and I was really impressed with the falvor and sweetness without being pithy, as I heard the first and second crops would be pithy. The fruit color was light yellow and bright green, the next one I try, hopefully in about 10 days to two weeks will be fully ripe and orange. I have Brown Select satsumas, which I believe is a mid season variety, does anyone have an early Satsuma? Are they ripe? Also how can you tell when the fruit is at its peak?
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Malcolm_Manners
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Posted: Tue 19 Oct, 2010 2:17 am

Realize that with satsumas, just as with oranges, peel color is utterly independent of internal maturity ["ripeness"]. In our area, they often reach full maturity while deep green on the exterior. At one time (late 1970s?) there was a marketing attempt at selling them as "Emerald Mandarin!" It did not go over very well, as I recall.

In our area, early November is when they reach full maturity. And on your very young tree, you'll want to pick them early as opposed to late, so they don't dry out on you.
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ivica
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Location: Sisak, Croatia, zone 7b

Posted: Tue 19 Oct, 2010 5:34 am

Malcolm_Manners wrote:
...In our area, early November is when they reach full maturity....

I see that US members rarely mention early and very-early ripening Unshiu Satsumas. Does that mean that you do not grow them there?
If so, why? Just beacuse of peel color?Confused Shocked

joeb wrote:
... I have Brown Select satsumas, which I believe is a mid season variety, does anyone have an early Satsuma?...

My very early ripening cultivar (in pot, probably one of 3 mentioned here: link)
reach maturity late September/early October, depending on season. Early October this year.
Other poted Unshiu which I have, Chahara, ripens 2-3 weeks later.

Photo: Chahara a week ago, very-early mandarin is behind (not much to see, a couple of fruits left)

Today photos:
Chahara sample

Fruits, Chahara on the left, very-early Unshiu on the right


Local stores got mandarines 10 days ago, not sure about variety. Those have peel color slightly more greenish then on the September-11 photo "Zorica Rana (mutation of Kawano Wase), photographed 2002-09-11".
link)

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Malcolm_Manners
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Posted: Tue 19 Oct, 2010 10:12 am

Unshiu is the only Satsuma commonly grown in Florida. It is our earliest maturing citrus.
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ivica
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Posted: Tue 19 Oct, 2010 11:12 am

Malcolm_Manners wrote:
Unshiu is the only Satsuma commonly grown in Florida. It is our earliest maturing citrus.

Checking data (compiled by Dr. Z. Gatin) of ripening and harvest of Unshiu mandarin in our Adriatic area for early November I see cultivars such as Kuno, Seto, Saigon, maybe Owari... What we have before that, starting with late September, is Ichimaru, Zorica Rana, Wakiyama, Chahara, Okitsu, Miho, Kawano Wase...
I don't understand why, for example, northern Florida do not grow cultivars such as above.
Quote from "Eating satsumas yet?" (October-10 2009)
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Matt N wrote:
I picked changsha, kimbrough and mr. mac yesterday. I have miho and seto that are almost ready. Clemenules and page are starting to turn.

According to this short analyze we (at 42+ North) have first mandarines a couple of weeks earlier.
That is confusing... Cite from http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/morton/mandarin_orange.html
"The commercial cultivation of mandarin oranges in the United States has developed mostly in Alabama, Florida and Mississippi and, to a lesser extent, in Texas, Georgia and California. "
No mention of very-early ripening cultivars or even Chahara.

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Malcolm_Manners
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Posted: Tue 19 Oct, 2010 6:42 pm

Sorry, I must have been having a senior moment -- Owari is our common variety in Florida. Maxima mea culpa.
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John Bonzo
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Posted: Tue 19 Oct, 2010 9:37 pm

I grow two varieties, one early (Ukitsu) and one mid/late (Owari)...I think that is fairly common in zone 8 areas. It is usually what I recommend to people at least.
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TRI
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Posted: Mon 15 Nov, 2010 4:23 am

I picked some Brown Select satsumas near the ground and they were not very sweet and somewhat tart. They are normally sweet in mid November but not this year. Last year the satsumas were very sweet.
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