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JoeReal
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Posted: Thu 06 Apr, 2006 5:20 am

I'm fed up with the flowering quince that the city planted in front of the sidewalk of our property. So I sneaked in last year and topworked it to become Smyrna Quince, at least will get some nice cooking quince from this tree.

This year, I grafted more cultivars of quinces, thanks to Lucky and the CRFG, it has now 5 more quinces unto it, 2 types of Pears, and an apple, all together in one tree. Quinces are good rootstocks for most apples and pears, and so why not? This is now a three species type tree with 9 cultivars of pomes on it. People would be scratching their heads next year when different fruits literally hang from this tree:
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Patty_in_wisc
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Posted: Thu 06 Apr, 2006 11:55 pm

Joe, that is HILARIOUS ... LMAO
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disneygirl
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Posted: Fri 07 Apr, 2006 12:44 am

That's GREAT!!! I Love it. Don't forget your camera, for those eye struck people.

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Posted: Fri 07 Apr, 2006 9:29 am

At first I was thinking just where I read the words guerilla grafting and I could not for the life of me know that term.
After I read your thread Joe, now I know.
What about if you have a neighbor and you want to get a branch from his citrus and want to graft it to your tree? But you don't know your neighbor.
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JoeReal
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Posted: Fri 07 Apr, 2006 11:36 am

Benny, the neighbor wouldn't notice. You tell them that you are pruning the side that goes over to you, perfectly legal. Usually I ask, then they are amazed and gladly give some for me. You have guessed it right, I have grafted most trees of my neighbors already, except for their citruses. They are very happy to have so many different kinds of plums and cherries. They don't know anything about my citruses yet, that such kind of 42-in-1 combo ever existed right next to them. From their distance, my citrus trees look like ordinary and well balanced trees. You would only notice that it has indeed several kinds when you look closely or read the labels or look at the fruits or inspect the leaves side by side.
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JoeReal
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Posted: Fri 07 Apr, 2006 11:38 am

disneygirl: thanks for the reminder. I hope to remember your advice after 18 months from this date when the fruits hopefully form from all of them late next year.
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JoeReal
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Posted: Fri 07 Apr, 2006 11:40 am

Patty: I hope the city wouldn't mind. Some neighbors have replaced their trees completely but it has to fall within the species guidelines of the city. I can argue that literally, I still have their original tree though and have live branches from it remaining still. LOL!
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Patty_in_wisc
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Posted: Fri 07 Apr, 2006 3:21 pm

Here I am, reading & learning all the different ways to graft and I see a new one to learn about ---
GUERRILLA grafting!
Patty (still laughing)
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Posted: Fri 07 Apr, 2006 8:11 pm

I thought it was something to do with Joe getting a New pet training it to get him some Limbs ? LOL great work joe ..

Now to stop Neighbors from Night time Money theiving your fruit LOL Tammy

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timposs1ble



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Posted: Tue 31 Mar, 2009 7:45 pm

for practical reasons here are some questions regarding your grafts:
do you know the species/cultivar of the quince that is your stock?
the varieties of pears and apples that you grafted? with an interstock?
is there a list i can find of apples and pears that are more likely to graft successfully onto quince?
have they all taken/survived? how long?
have they flowered/fruited yet?
has the city tree crew come by to trim the tree yet? do they water it?

thanx...
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JoeReal
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Posted: Tue 31 Mar, 2009 8:08 pm

Yes, all grafts have fruited except for the ones added last year. One thing nice about grafting unto quinces is that it has a dwarfing effect on the pears or apples, and imparts early bearing, as in the very next season after taking. The grafts on the quinces grew vigorously during the season they were grafted and then slows down dramatically once they start producing fruits, a very much desired trait that I like.

So far, I haven't encountered any incompatibilities, some grafts are over 5 years old now.

Winter Banana apple is the most graft compatible with quinces, pears and other apples. Generally, you can graft apples or pears unto quinces and it will have dwarfing effect on the grafted cultivars once they start to fruit.
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JoeReal
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Posted: Tue 31 Mar, 2009 8:25 pm

Quince Blossoms:


apple blossoms:


Quince Blossoms and new grafts. Note that pears are just starting to awaken.
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JoeReal
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Posted: Tue 31 Mar, 2009 8:26 pm

Flowers of different stages and species. There's always new cultivar added to this tree each year.

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Posted: Tue 31 Mar, 2009 8:27 pm

Curious Horticulturists from the Philippines:




I'll try to remember to take pictures when there are fruits hanging on the tree this season!
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JoeReal
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Posted: Tue 31 Mar, 2009 8:28 pm

Those photos were one to three years old. I'll need to take new photos but had been too busy.
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