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citrange Site Admin
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 589 Location: UK - 15 miles west of London
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Posted: Wed 28 Nov, 2012 2:41 pm |
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A few years ago I bought a 'Lemon Bizzaria' from the Italian nusery Tintori.
See towards bottom of page
http://www.homecitrusgrowers.co.uk/citrusvarieties/bizzarria.html
It has produced several small, corrugated Lemons.
Unusual, but not worthy of carrying the Bizzaria name.
I had decided that this plant was not the hoped for Lemon Bizzaria chimera.
However, this year it is carrying one small fruit that is very definitely a chimera.
Not yet ripe, I'm waiting impatiently to see if the outer layer will be orange or yellow.
Mike/Citrange |
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MarcV Moderator
Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 1470 Location: Schoten (Antwerp), Belgium
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Posted: Wed 28 Nov, 2012 2:45 pm |
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That is definitely an interesting fruit! _________________ - Marc |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5642 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Wed 28 Nov, 2012 3:03 pm |
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Very cool fruit! _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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GregMartin Citruholic
Joined: 12 Jan 2011 Posts: 265 Location: southern Maine, zone 5/6
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Posted: Wed 28 Nov, 2012 4:22 pm |
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Does anyone make custom chimeras using cell culture methods? I'd imagine one could take cells from two or more tissues, then let them come together in the bottom of a test tube to form tissue that would be grown out on agar, then transplanted to root. In that way you might be able to make all sorts of chimeras. If you took albino cells and added them to cells with chlorophyl I'd imagine you could produce varigated versions of anything? Not sure if one cell type would outgrow the other and end up eliminating it? |
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MarcV Moderator
Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 1470 Location: Schoten (Antwerp), Belgium
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Posted: Wed 28 Nov, 2012 4:50 pm |
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I guess this might be possible, but then it's probably a very expensive way to create something that only has an ornamental value... _________________ - Marc |
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Sanguinello Gest
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Posted: Thu 29 Nov, 2012 6:54 am |
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I am not sure, if that would be possible.
I think the strongest cells would dominate and outnumber the other cells.
The natural chimeras seam to be the result of a graft and at a graft the cells MUST unite; in a cell culture, they don´t have to. |
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Sylvain Site Admin
Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 790 Location: Bergerac, France.
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Posted: Thu 29 Nov, 2012 7:43 am |
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I have exactly the same story with the same variety!
First fruit "bizzaria", not ripe.
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Sanguinello Gest
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Posted: Thu 29 Nov, 2012 7:51 am |
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Nice !
The (Bitter)Orange seams to dominate. |
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Sylvain Site Admin
Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 790 Location: Bergerac, France.
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Posted: Thu 29 Nov, 2012 8:16 am |
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I don't think so but we just have to wait to know.
There are two Bizzarria, one is common with round fruits and long petioles slightly winged the Aurantium and one is rare with lemon shaped fruits and short petioles that aren't winged. The lemon.
As you can see on the pictures the one from Mike is the lemon. |
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Sanguinello Gest
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Posted: Thu 29 Nov, 2012 12:11 pm |
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Didn´t you say it is the same ?
I know by experience, that the top layer is the Orange.
The peel is typically.
Bésides you see on the inside layer the rips of the corrugated Lemon. |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5642 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Thu 29 Nov, 2012 12:26 pm |
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Well done Sylvain. That is a very nice fruit. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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MarcV Moderator
Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 1470 Location: Schoten (Antwerp), Belgium
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Posted: Thu 29 Nov, 2012 3:34 pm |
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Does "chimera" show in the fruit only or does it also show in other parts of the plant? _________________ - Marc |
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Sanguinello Gest
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Posted: Thu 29 Nov, 2012 4:18 pm |
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Some times it shows only in the fruits.
If it shows in the leafes, then only punctually like white dots.
For isntance at Swiss Orange (Citrus aurantium Fasciata) it shows on new shoots only.
Often just some white dots in vertically lines, sometimes so much that it looks like normal variegation, but when look near you see it consists of little dots of 1-2 mm.
When the leaf grows and matures, these dots disapear slowly. |
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Sylvain Site Admin
Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 790 Location: Bergerac, France.
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Posted: Fri 30 Nov, 2012 6:06 am |
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At first sight there is nothing on the rest of the plant, but I can find some "freaky" leaves that are asymmetric and with most imagination I can guess some strips on the branches. That's all. |
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