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dauben
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Location: Ramona, CA, Zone 9A

Posted: Fri 02 Mar, 2007 3:38 am

When wandering around in the local nursery, they have citrus trees categorized into ultra-dwarf and semi-dwarf. I'm presuming that the ultra-dwarf is on a Flying Dragon rootstock, but any ideas what the semi-dwarf might be? Regular Trifoliate? I would love to see the labels not just describe the type fruit tree it is, but what the rootstock is also. Then again, most people that buy the trees probably don't care.

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Phillip
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citrusboy
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Location: Southern California Coastal

Posted: Fri 02 Mar, 2007 4:22 am

Good question. Semi Dwarf. I used to think it was C-35, but they get pretty big. Definately not Carrizo. Honestly I have no idea... good luck!

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JoeReal
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Joined: 16 Nov 2005
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Location: Davis, California

Posted: Fri 02 Mar, 2007 4:26 am

Even the retail nursery workers seldom know what those rootstocks are. the definition and rootstock cultivars varies with each nursery.

You can look up website of the company in the labels or tags. Oftentimes, they are listed there, like Willits & Newcomb, Four Winds, Citrus Tree Source, C & M, then look them up in the internet and give them a call.

Not even our local nurseries are knowledgeable on the citrus rootstocks. I have meet one really good professional horticulturist at Home Depot who happen to be inspecting the latest shipment, and she can only honestly guess and told me to call the originating nursery telling the particular batch that was shipped.

Sometimes one nusery would outsource from another nursery. Sometimes they simply order from Citrus Tree Source, and then place them in pots and have them grow to marketable size, and then sell off to various other nurseries not keeping track of which rootstocks are which.

The bottomline is that if it is ultra-dwarf, most likely it is Flying Dragon, and the assumption of being ultra dwarf is you keep them in pots forever. I planted an ultra dwarf Calamondin in the ground, you've heard my rant before, and was happy that I don't need to worry about the height, but right now my "ultra-dwarf" is 26 ft tall, and I am not complaining. The same batch of calamondin that I kept in a pot, is still 2 ft tall, indeed an ultra-dwarf but fruiting.
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Millet
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Posted: Fri 02 Mar, 2007 11:40 am

Dwarf trees from Four Winds, are on a root stock called "Cuban." Four Winds calls this root stock "True Dwarf."

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dauben
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Posted: Sat 03 Mar, 2007 2:17 am

Well, I broke down today and called the grower of the citrus trees to find out what their semi-dwarf and ultra-dwarf rootstocks are. The semi-dwarf is regular trifoliate and their ultra-dwarf is flying dragon.

Phillip
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