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sunmicroman
Joined: 15 Feb 2011 Posts: 9 Location: Washington state
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Posted: Sun 04 Nov, 2012 6:33 pm |
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So, I bought a bag of Meyer Lemons at the store a few months back. It isn't beyond me being a citrus and hardy subtropical fruit enthusiast all of these years (which is the main reason I started the original "Hardy & Subtropical Board" in the summer of '97) to plant some seeds of store bought fruit and see what results I get.
So I planted some Meyer seeds to get a few Meyer seedlings. I only got two to germinate, but to my surprise one of the seedlings has trifoliate leaves!
Here is the pic:
As you can see, the seedling on the right looks like a normal Meyer seedling, but the one on the left appears to have trifoliate leaves. I wonder if I am going to get some kind of Meyer-Trifoliata hybrid from that little guy? |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5664 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Sun 04 Nov, 2012 7:49 pm |
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Meyer does not come true & yes it hybridizes quite easy. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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sunmicroman
Joined: 15 Feb 2011 Posts: 9 Location: Washington state
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Posted: Sun 04 Nov, 2012 8:11 pm |
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Just would have thought there probably wouldn't be any Poncirus flowering anywhere near a grove of Meyer lemon trees in California or wherever the store bought fruit originated from. So that surprised me that there could have been a random hybrid seedling in it's offspring and makes me wonder if there was some Poncirus somewhere in the lineage of the particular fruit I planted the seed from. |
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GregMartin Citruholic
Joined: 12 Jan 2011 Posts: 268 Location: southern Maine, zone 5/6
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Posted: Sun 04 Nov, 2012 8:38 pm |
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Quite possible that it was pollinated from a rootstock that managed to send up a branch that flowered. Also possible that both of your seedlings could be pollinated from that rootstock if the rootstock was itself a Poncirus hybrid such as a citrange (in which case half of resulting plants would be trifoliate, half monofoliate).
Very cool, by the way. |
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Radoslav Moderator
Joined: 03 May 2008 Posts: 453 Location: Slovak Republic
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Posted: Mon 05 Nov, 2012 5:40 am |
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Nice |
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Sanguinello Gest
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Posted: Mon 05 Nov, 2012 2:47 pm |
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Also possible that the genes of rootstock and scion mixed ...
Anyways ... maybe you have a hardy lemon now .. and hopefully it tastes well ... |
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igor.fogarasi Moderator
Joined: 11 Apr 2011 Posts: 559 Location: Novi Sad, Serbia
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Posted: Mon 05 Nov, 2012 3:12 pm |
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Sanguinello wrote: | Also possible that the genes of rootstock and scion mixed ... |
Sanguinello, I'm not sure if that could actually happen... Sunmicroman, anyway, would be very interesting watching it grow into a cold-hardy, fruit bearing tree with, hopefully, some tasty fruit.
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Sylvain Site Admin
Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 790 Location: Bergerac, France.
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Posted: Mon 05 Nov, 2012 4:23 pm |
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Quote: | Also possible that the genes of rootstock and scion mixed ... |
What do you mean? |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5664 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Mon 05 Nov, 2012 5:04 pm |
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Sunmicroman do a google search for Citremon. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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ilyaC Citruholic
Joined: 04 Sep 2009 Posts: 276 Location: France, 40km South of Paris
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Posted: Mon 05 Nov, 2012 5:18 pm |
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Very nice find.
I am always puzzled that although Meyer is zygotic, there are not so many hybrids with it.
I know only eremolemon and possibly sunquat.
Last year I obtained several hybrid seedlings by pollination of my Swingle5* citrumelo with pollen of Meyer. About quarter of them are monofoliates.
If in your case the chance pollination was by some poncirus hybrid, I suggest that you keep all the seedlings, not only the trifoliate one. _________________ Best regards,
Ilya |
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sunmicroman
Joined: 15 Feb 2011 Posts: 9 Location: Washington state
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Posted: Mon 05 Nov, 2012 5:31 pm |
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Laaz wrote: | Sunmicroman do a google search for Citremon. |
I know what a Citremon is and have attempted to grow it. I was thinking maybe this seedling could be a Meyer Citremon (Meyer x Poncirus). Or possibly a multi hybrid with a Poncirus heritage. Maybe even a new undiscovered Poncirus hybrid (my hope actually). I know that some very hardy hybrids have been discovered by a chance seedling planting (Juanita Tangerine is one that comes to mind and maybe the "Ten Degree Tangerine" too). It will definitely be interesting to see how this little seedling develops. I will also keep the other too. |
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ilyaC Citruholic
Joined: 04 Sep 2009 Posts: 276 Location: France, 40km South of Paris
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Posted: Mon 05 Nov, 2012 5:58 pm |
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Quite sure that it is "a new undiscovered Poncirus hybrid" _________________ Best regards,
Ilya |
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gregn Citruholic
Joined: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 236 Location: North Vancouver, BC, Canada
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Posted: Sat 17 Nov, 2012 5:44 pm |
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sunmicroman, where do you live in the state? I have 2 - 8' Meyer lemon bushes/ trees growing in my front garden. I have just made 5 batches of Meyer lemon Marmalade and not one usable seed was found. I was hoping to find a few and germinate them as you did - but no luck.
Very interesting find.
Greg _________________ Gregn, citrus enthusiast. North Vancouver Canada. USDA zone 8. I grow In-ground citrus, Palms and bananas. Also have container citrus |
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danero2004 Citruholic
Joined: 19 Jun 2009 Posts: 523 Location: Romania Zone 6a
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Posted: Sat 17 Nov, 2012 7:05 pm |
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I have handpolinated a meyer flower wiith a poncirus but got a replica of a meyer tree from the seed , no trifoliate leaves...just monofoliate...does this mean that is going to be a Meyer lemon ? Meyer was also grafted on trifoliata |
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sat 17 Nov, 2012 8:55 pm |
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No, it won't be a Meyer, but could produce a tree and fruit similar to a Meyer, or fairly different than the parent tree. - Millet. |
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