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GregMartin Citruholic
Joined: 12 Jan 2011 Posts: 268 Location: southern Maine, zone 5/6
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Posted: Sat 03 Nov, 2012 5:40 pm |
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Anyone have advice on how far apart to plant Poncirus to make a good security hedge? I'm hoping to eventually be able to keep deer out of an orchard planting. I'm thinking of spacing something like every 2 feet, but I couldn't find a value with a quick web search. Would it be the same spacing for Flying Dragon as for standard Poncirus?
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sun 04 Nov, 2012 12:26 am |
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How far apart the individual plantings are all depends on the size of the trees you are starting with. Poncirus hedges, especially FD hedges, do become impenetrable when they FINALLY grow to maturity. A poncirus hedge will of course be a leafless hedge during the winter months. What most people would find to be a major draw back, using a tree such as poncirus is how very slowly they grow. This would especially be a problem in such a short growth season area as Maine. In Maine it will take many many years before a poncirus hedge grows tall enough, and dense enough, to keep out your very first deer. Until your hedge grows to be 7-8 feet in height, at the very MINIMUM, a deer will have no difficulty in the lest jumping the hedge and enjoying your orchid . - Millet 71 |
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GT Citruholic
Joined: 11 Jul 2010 Posts: 395 Location: Beaumont, TX (zone 9a)
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Posted: Sun 04 Nov, 2012 1:31 am |
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My 5 cents: FD will probably grow about twice slower than the standard PT. |
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Sanguinello Gest
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Posted: Sun 04 Nov, 2012 3:13 am |
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... it will grow even slower when the deer will munch it ... |
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GregMartin Citruholic
Joined: 12 Jan 2011 Posts: 268 Location: southern Maine, zone 5/6
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Posted: Sun 04 Nov, 2012 1:18 pm |
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Sanguinello wrote: | ... it will grow even slower when the deer will munch it ... |
That would be some kind of irony, wouldn't it
I'm okay with it taking a long time...I really love the pictures I've seen of Poncirus hedges and I don't mind if it takes more than a decade to be effective. Just trying to avoid planting them too close or too far apart....hate to wait that long and have it be wrong. |
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Sanguinello Gest
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Posted: Sun 04 Nov, 2012 1:21 pm |
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I suggest to combine it with an electric wire or with a row fast growing thorny hedge. |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5664 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Sun 04 Nov, 2012 1:31 pm |
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About 4-5 ft apart should do fine for a hedge. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sun 04 Nov, 2012 1:56 pm |
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A little off your particular point, but I will throw it in anyway. You can grow a really fast and excellent hedge using a special variety of bush willow. See http://www.doubleawillow.com/
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Sanguinello Gest
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Posted: Sun 04 Nov, 2012 2:07 pm |
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Oh Yes !
Deers love to eat that ... |
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GregMartin Citruholic
Joined: 12 Jan 2011 Posts: 268 Location: southern Maine, zone 5/6
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Posted: Sun 04 Nov, 2012 9:09 pm |
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Millet, thanks for that suggestion. I've always thought the living woven willow fences were interesting...lots of potential for an artistic weaver. I wonder how long such a fence would live?
Laaz, thanks for the spacing number. I would have grown and planted twice what I had to and with potentially worse results...very appreciated.
Sanguinello, an electric wire might be a very good idea. I was also concidering temporary deer fencing to keep them at bay while the hedge grows. |
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Sanguinello Gest
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Posted: Sun 04 Nov, 2012 9:17 pm |
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I guess the space Laaz gave is for Poncirus trifoliata.
I would choose that anyways, for Flying Dragon grows much slower and hardly gets 2 meter ever.
That would not stop a deer that really wants to get over.
Of course you could make also a wider space, but then it takes longer till the spaces are filled. |
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cristofre Citruholic
Joined: 09 Mar 2010 Posts: 200 Location: Clayton, Georgia USA zone 7B/8A
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Posted: Mon 05 Nov, 2012 3:37 pm |
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GregMartin wrote: | Anyone have advice on how far apart to plant Poncirus to make a good security hedge? I'm hoping to eventually be able to keep deer out of an orchard planting. I'm thinking of spacing something like every 2 feet, but I couldn't find a value with a quick web search. Would it be the same spacing for Flying Dragon as for standard Poncirus?
Thanks,
Greg |
I'm growing a PT hedge, or at least I planted about 25 small seedlings in a line this year- hopefully it will grow.
I planted them about 1 1/2 to 2 feet apart, I don't know if they actually need to be that close, but I figure I will loose some here and there. |
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Sanguinello Gest
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Posted: Mon 05 Nov, 2012 3:39 pm |
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Well, that is far too close !
I would dig out every second. |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5664 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Mon 05 Nov, 2012 4:10 pm |
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Sanguinello wrote: | I guess the space Laaz gave is for Poncirus trifoliata.
I would choose that anyways, for Flying Dragon grows much slower and hardly gets 2 meter ever. |
That's funny my FD are both over 8 ft tall & about 4 ft wide. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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Sanguinello Gest
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Posted: Mon 05 Nov, 2012 4:13 pm |
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Well, your climate is perfect ... in a colder climate it is as I said ... |
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