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serj
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Posted: Wed 02 Jan, 2013 4:21 pm

I have lemon polpa rosso variageted and i have lemon "Sanguineum" aka Polpa Rosso from the Oscar Tintori Nurcery with green leaves. I think this lemons must have pink pulp and yellow skin. And lemon Rosso (not Polpa Rosso) must have reddish skin and yellow pulp. Am i right?
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Posted: Wed 02 Jan, 2013 4:30 pm

Any photos? From the only photo I found on the web, lemon polpa rosso variageted looks like variegated Eureka lemon.



Translates to "lemon variegated red pulp"

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Posted: Wed 02 Jan, 2013 4:33 pm

I can share foto only of lemon rosso from the web. I have broken my leg so that i will not able to enter my greenhouse for 3 weeks.
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Posted: Wed 02 Jan, 2013 4:37 pm

Get well soon! Smile
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Posted: Wed 02 Jan, 2013 4:38 pm

Sorry to hear that, hope you get better soon.

Also there is a pink Italian lemon that is not variegated, which may be the other lemon with green leaves you mention.

http://www.citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/italian_pink.html


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Posted: Wed 02 Jan, 2013 4:40 pm

Thank you for your wishes! Can in be that polpa rosso variagated = evrika pink variagated?
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Posted: Wed 02 Jan, 2013 4:42 pm

Yes, I believe it is the variegated pink Eureka.

http://www.citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/variegatedpink.html


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Posted: Wed 02 Jan, 2013 6:40 pm

Limone Rosso ISA
http://www.freshplaza.it/photoalbum/PAViewPhoto.asp?AlbumID=538&Photo=15&array_pos=
some said it is more citrus medica than citrus limon

http://www.gaertnerei-bender.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=457&Itemid=242


And from Tintori: (with pink pulp) "limone a foglia variegata a polpa rossa"

As I mentioned in other topic:
"According to this article - http://www.zitrusgarten.com/DT/sorten/foliis_variegatis.pdf - first time It was presented in 1881 on Milan exhibition by growers from Campania, Apulies and Calabria. And won gold medal. Subsequently It was described by professor L. Savastano in 1882. There were presented two forms:
"limone a foglia variegata a polpa gialla" - variegated lemon with yelow flesh
"limone a foglia variegata a polpa rossa" - variegated lemon with pink flesh "
I do not think, it is Eureka, most likely it is Italian feminello lemon
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Posted: Wed 02 Jan, 2013 7:01 pm

It would be interesting to know if it is Femminello. I would really like confirmation that there is a variegated Femminello.

Here we have the variegated Eureka with pink flesh & the variegated Lisbon with yellow flesh.

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Posted: Wed 02 Jan, 2013 7:02 pm

one problem is the many names applied by different countries for a single fruit tree, makes the understanding of what variety a person is actually talking about difficult, without going to all the trouble to trying to pin the correct variety down. - Millet
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Posted: Wed 02 Jan, 2013 7:06 pm

Indeed, I notice many satsuma names I have never heard of before in Europe. I believe many are the same varieties we have here interpreted differently.

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Posted: Wed 02 Jan, 2013 7:10 pm

I know of three variegated Eureka:
White variegation with yellow pulp
White variegation with pink pulp
Yellow variegation with yellow pulp.
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Posted: Wed 02 Jan, 2013 7:14 pm

Here the Eureka has white variegation with pink flesh. The Lisbon has yellow variegation with yellow flesh.

I have never seen a variegated Eureka with yellow flesh

Eureka & Lisbon are difficult to distinguish from each other. One tell tale sign, is Eureka is not compatible with trifoliata.

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Posted: Thu 03 Jan, 2013 1:04 am

> I have never seen a variegated Eureka with yellow flesh
This is the one I have. White variegation and yellow flesh.
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Posted: Thu 03 Jan, 2013 4:35 am

I do not know exactly, what it is, but as far as I know Eureka is USA selection, so I can only assume, that those old italian variegated varieties are not Eureka (Eureka is an old variety - according to http://www.citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/frosteureka.html from 1858, but I can hardly expect that it was brought to Sicily from USA around 1860 and than create variegated spot). If those varieties resembles Eureka and Eureka is a seedling of Lunario (according to Russo 1950) it could be Lunario, but this is strange, because Lunario was described as novelty in italian book from 1899.
Variegated lemons were shown in Milan exhibition in 1881. So those variegated lemons have to be a different variety - maybe Amalfitano (Lunario said to be an Amalfitano seedling) or Feminello.
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