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mrtexas Citruholic
Joined: 02 Dec 2005 Posts: 1030 Location: 9a Missouri City,TX
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Posted: Sun 21 Aug, 2011 10:50 pm |
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Here are two fruit on a seedling flying dragon in a 5 gallon pot a few years old:
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mikeyinfla Citruholic
Joined: 19 Mar 2010 Posts: 47 Location: palmetto, florida
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Posted: Sun 21 Aug, 2011 11:02 pm |
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how old was it when it fruited does fd fall in the 3 to 5 year time frame ? _________________ in gardening there are no failures only learning experiances unless of coarse you give up |
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mrtexas Citruholic
Joined: 02 Dec 2005 Posts: 1030 Location: 9a Missouri City,TX
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Posted: Sun 21 Aug, 2011 11:39 pm |
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mikeyinfla wrote: | how old was it when it fruited does fd fall in the 3 to 5 year time frame ? |
I'd guess 3+. Perhaps the stress of the severe drought we are having has something to do with it. |
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Mark_T Citruholic
Joined: 30 Jun 2009 Posts: 757 Location: Gilbert,AZ
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Posted: Mon 22 Aug, 2011 1:27 am |
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Cool, how tall is it? I have one or two I will probably let grow for a seed tree.
I really don't like how slow growing FD is though. You pretty much have to have it in it's second year to be ready for rootstock. |
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TRI Citruholic
Joined: 13 Jan 2010 Posts: 399 Location: Homestead, FL Zone 10
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Posted: Mon 22 Aug, 2011 6:41 pm |
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Satsuma seedlings are really slow growing. I have one that is 18 months old and it is only about 12 inches tall! Maybe next year it will grow faster. |
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MarcV Moderator
Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 1501 Location: Schoten (Antwerp), Belgium
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Posted: Tue 23 Aug, 2011 4:43 am |
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I have a couple of citrus aurantium seedlings. At what age can I expect the first flowers on them? _________________ - Marc
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Mark_T Citruholic
Joined: 30 Jun 2009 Posts: 757 Location: Gilbert,AZ
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Posted: Tue 23 Aug, 2011 6:33 am |
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MarcV wrote: | I have a couple of citrus aurantium seedlings. At what age can I expect the first flowers on them? |
Some people claim 5 years. I can't verify that. |
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citrange Site Admin
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 590 Location: UK - 15 miles west of London
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Posted: Tue 23 Aug, 2011 11:46 am |
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Maybe 5 years in sunny Arizona.
More like 15 years in the UK (and Belgium)!
Regarding PT FD, I have several seedlings about 12 years old. Only one has produced a few flowers, and no fruit yet. |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5679 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Tue 23 Aug, 2011 2:29 pm |
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I have a standard Trifoliata that fruits the first year from seed. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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citrange Site Admin
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 590 Location: UK - 15 miles west of London
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Posted: Tue 23 Aug, 2011 3:45 pm |
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So you have a mature Poncirus plant that produces fruits with seeds that themselves produce seedlings which generally flower and fruit in their first year?
How tall are the seedlings when they flower?
Are the flowers from a single terminal bud?
Are the seedling fruits normal sized and contain seeds?
Do you know if this is maintained through further generations? |
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pagnr Citrus Guru
Joined: 23 Aug 2008 Posts: 407 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue 23 Aug, 2011 7:27 pm |
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Citrange, you make many good points.
Also consider an early fruiting seedling, say at 2 years, that consistently fruits every year from then on. This could be distributed or maintained as cuttings or budwood etc, as is usual with all other Citrus cultivars. I agree that transmitting the early fruiting to its seedlings would be an ultimate test.
However a variable seedling may also produce further variable seedlings, as is sometimes seen in monoembryonic Citrus seedlings. |
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MarcV Moderator
Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 1501 Location: Schoten (Antwerp), Belgium
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Posted: Wed 24 Aug, 2011 5:40 am |
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citrange wrote: | MarcV wrote: | I have a couple of citrus aurantium seedlings. At what age can I expect the first flowers on them? |
Maybe 5 years in sunny Arizona.
More like 15 years in the UK (and Belgium)! |
That sounds like a long wait! I have to find a way to sneak in a mature sour orange to my collection. My wife won't permit me to buy another plant, but she probably won't notice an extra one...
So Mike, you must have been lucky with your home made hybrids flowering and fruiting after "only" 7 years! _________________ - Marc
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TRI Citruholic
Joined: 13 Jan 2010 Posts: 399 Location: Homestead, FL Zone 10
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Posted: Mon 29 Aug, 2011 12:21 am |
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For those in Arizona, is the tap water very salty? Do you amend the soil before planting? Southern Arizona is very very dry. Do you irrigate with tap water? |
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