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mrtexas
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Posted: Mon 29 Jul, 2013 1:23 am

I planted two Dave Wilson pomegranate trees in Beaumont, TX two or three years ago that I had left over from a plant sale, garnet sash and eversweet. The garnet sash tree has 5 or 6 fruit on it but the eversweet has none although both were planted the same time. The trees are 6-8 foot tall. One lady that bought a pomegranate tree from me said she had a large one in Beaumont, TX killed by hurricane Ike that produced lots of fruit. I have space at my new house in Missouri City, Tx.

I vaguely remember reading that garnet sash pomegranate is an inferior fruit. Any comment on that thought?

Anyone have any experience with eversweet pomegranate?

Anyone have personal experience with how productive pomegranate trees are in the Houston, TX area?

Recommended varieties?
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turtleman
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Posted: Mon 29 Jul, 2013 5:40 pm

We stopped growing Eversweets in the Nursery here because of the same reason your questioning ,, they do have a lower production rate than others, many Pom varieties take up to 4 years to go into production. Eversweet is a fair producer, but takes a long time to get productive. Once we sell the remaining inventory I'm not propagating any more.
I'd suggest looking into Angel Reds, buy far the best seller here,, and heavy producing,, goes into production on the second season.
Granada is another one to consider for your area, along with the newer variety like "Austin".
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Darkman
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Posted: Mon 29 Jul, 2013 8:06 pm

turtleman wrote:
I'd suggest looking into Angel Reds, buy far the best seller here,, and heavy producing,, goes into production on the second season.
Granada is another one to consider for your area, along with the newer variety like "Austin".


Thanks for posting that. I hope my Angel Reds produce better next year. Nice tall sloppy bushes but not many fruit at two years old. Maybe next year will be the one.

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Posted: Mon 29 Jul, 2013 9:56 pm

mrtexas wrote:
I vaguely remember reading that garnet sash pomegranate is an inferior fruit. Any comment on that thought


Garnet Sash is Dave Wilson name for Parfianka which is supposed to be one of the best. I have it but it is young and has not produced yet so I can not verify the taste.
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Millet
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Posted: Mon 29 Jul, 2013 11:16 pm

I have a large (11-ft. H X 12-ft. W) Wonderful Pomegranate that produces an amazing amount of fruit every year. Wonderful, may or may not, be the best variety available today, but the variety certainly is an great producer. I juice most of the fruit, anyway, and also turn some of the juice into Jelly. - Millet
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Posted: Tue 30 Jul, 2013 12:28 am

Millet wrote:
I have a large (11-ft. H X 12-ft. W) Wonderful Pomegranate that produces an amazing amount of fruit every year. Wonderful, may or may not, be the best variety available today, but the variety certainly is an great producer. I juice most of the fruit, anyway, and also turn some of the juice into Jelly. - Millet


Hi Millet,

We have talked about my Wonderful several times. It set blooms at two distinct times this year but not one of the hundreds of blooms, both male and female were present, set fruit. I did not have time to try manual pollination this year. The tree is probably 9 ft tall and wide. Do you remember how many years before yours became productive. Mine is 4 -5 years old. We did have a non Winter Winter. Maybe that is part of the problem.

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GT
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Posted: Tue 30 Jul, 2013 12:56 am

I have Wonderful (I suppose) that is about 5 years by now. It grows and produces well. It does drop most of flowers (my neighbor, who has a similar plant, believes they are blown by the wind Laughing ), yet we still have 30-50 fruits in the fall. I also had another (unknown) verity with fruits of excellent taste that were pink when ripe but that one was killed by spring frosts over the last three years.

So, frankly, I am quite happy with Wonderful. It is in front of our house making a very nice "Christmas-tree-like" landscaping. Very Happy Guess, I need to post a picture of it.
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Posted: Tue 30 Jul, 2013 11:52 am

Darkman, I really don't remember at what year the Wonderful pomegranate begin to fruit. I believe it was about the the third year. Last year the tree produced 148 fruits. I did hand pollinate, hand pollinating might not even be necessary for good production, but I did it anyway. - Millet
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GT
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Posted: Thu 01 Aug, 2013 1:22 am

ok, here it is:

Planted is spring 2009, the tree is on drip irrigation and is fertilized with 10-10-10 in early spring. I did not count the number of fruits; perhaps, around 30-50...
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Darkman
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Posted: Fri 02 Aug, 2013 3:17 am

Thanks for the picture GT. Yours is more mature based on the trunk caliper.

Millet Maybe we'll have a more normal weather pattern this year and the plants will act normal too.

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Posted: Sat 03 Aug, 2013 1:31 am

Darkman,

one thing about trunk: I was/am passionately picking any low-originating twigs to form a single-trunk plant. Poms seem to prefer to grow like bushes rather than trees. I am not sure whether this has anything to do with fruit production.

Good luck with yours!
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Posted: Sat 03 Aug, 2013 1:47 pm

GT wrote:
Darkman,

one thing about trunk: I was/am passionately picking any low-originating twigs to form a single-trunk plant. Poms seem to prefer to grow like bushes rather than trees. I am not sure whether this has anything to do with fruit production.

Good luck with yours!


That I have not done and probably should have. I did want to do that but I never seem to have left over time. Just too many projects going constantly. Maybe this Winter I can get out there and trim them up. On some of mine there are probably 15 - 20 trunks/shoots. Way too many.

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