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JoeReal
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Posted: Tue 10 Apr, 2007 5:18 pm

Definitely I have more than 100 fruits that were formed on my Flavorella tree. This is really a big deal for me because it is the first fruit sets the first time in 6 or more years.

Flavorella is a plumcot, and quite problematic as to what type of pollenizer is best for it. We have discussed various theories as to why it doesn't set fruits. Dave Wilson have stopped producing this wonderful tasting plumcot, even Andy Mariani owner of Andy's Orchards (http://www.andysorchard.com/index.shtml) have pulled out all of his Flavorella trees due to disappointing fruit sets several years in a row. Even a single fruit from this tree is enough to make some of us hobbyists very happy. So this year's fruit sets is truly beyond expectations.

Only lately, we have began finding suitable pollenizers of Flavorella. It has been proven to set fruits with Royal Rosa Apricot, Joe's Italian Apricot, and now more reliably with GoldKist. Brian and Tony both of my online friends in the South were the first person to give me a hint about GoldKist and so grafted it last winter. Now I have more than 100 fruit sets and already perfectly spaced without the need for thinning.

Here's this season Flavorella fruit sets as indisputable proof.
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Posted: Tue 10 Apr, 2007 5:19 pm

And another one:

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Posted: Tue 10 Apr, 2007 5:20 pm

And even the topmost branches have fruit sets. And I did not thin these fruits out.

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Posted: Tue 10 Apr, 2007 5:21 pm

Here's the pollen donor, Goldkist Apricot, long overdue for thinning out. Note that I have new grafts on it, still dormant.

Goldkist Apricot
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Posted: Tue 10 Apr, 2007 5:23 pm

I have grafted the heirloom Inca Plum too but this one is not responsible for setting the fruits on my Flavorella, because it has been blooming for two years without my Flavorella ever producing fruits. But Inca in here is pollinated by Golden Nectar which was grafted last year.

Inca plum
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Posted: Tue 10 Apr, 2007 5:24 pm

And here's the Golden Nectar, just grafted last year to pollinate my Inca plum, it also got pollinated itself and here's my first time fruitlets of Golden Nectar.

Golden Nectar Plum
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valenciaguy
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Posted: Tue 10 Apr, 2007 10:18 pm

Those are great joe(my peaches are yet to get to bud swell) do you what hardiness zone plumcots are hardy too?

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Posted: Wed 11 Apr, 2007 1:10 am

Hi ValenciaGuy,

The hardiness should be between that of Apricot and Plum parents. I don't know the specific parents of Flavorella, those are proprietary information.

I for one have many apricots that are bred in Harland, Canada. So probably the plumcots have good hardiness in your zone. For sure Flavorella is hardy in your zone, but being the earliest bloomers among my plumcots, the blooms would be easily damaged by frosts.

Perhaps you can try Spring Satin Plumcot as I know Flavorella would not be recommended for your area.

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Patty_in_wisc
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Posted: Wed 11 Apr, 2007 3:09 am

We have lots of plum trees around here, & I believe apricots too.
Joe, dont' you think that your Flavorella's bloom quicker because you have a earlier spring? Things around here seem to leaf out & blossom according to when the weather warms up. Sometimes earlier, sometimes later, according to MN. Only thing that might go wrong is to get blooms & then a hard freeze which only happens occasionally.

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Posted: Wed 11 Apr, 2007 3:22 am

That is true Patty. That's why I am speaking in relative terms. Of all my known stone fruits, Flavorella plumcot and Flavorosa Pluot are the consistently earliest bloomers in all the years so far. Sometimes they bloom as early as 2nd week of January during our warmest winter. So I am speaking in relative to my other stone fruits, and it will be the same where ever you plant them. The variations in year to year winter could be equated to several different locations, and in all those years, these two are the earliest bloomers.

Until of course somebody gave me a weirdo unknown stone fruit as gift, of course they don't know what it is either. This one blooms in dead winter! It has fruitlets in late winter, come arctic blast or not, just when the others are starting to swell their buds. So I would say that this is the earliest yet. It can bloom before the new year. It is also loaded with fruits. I suspect it is one type of Myrobalan peach plum hybrid. Will post pics on that one later. I suspect it is self fruitful because it was the only one blooming this mid-January when all the other stone fruits are asleep. My Flavorella and Flavorosa, which are my earliest known cultivars, bloomed a full month after this unknown stone fruit.
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