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		| ilyaC Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Thu 07 Feb, 2013 11:20 am |  
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				| Valencia orange genome has been finally sequenced . One of the interesting results is the finding that  it is not simply a pummelo-mandarin hybrid, but its further cross to mandarin.
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		| ivica Moderator
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Thu 07 Feb, 2013 3:25 pm |  
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				| Sweet orange = (PP * MM) * MM
That is interesting, thanks ilyaC.
 
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		| Millet Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Thu 07 Feb, 2013 6:40 pm |  
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				| Thanks for the link. A question, When the genome had been finally sequenced can they not tell which  pummelo a what two mandarins were involved? - Millet  |  | 
	
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				| Posted: Thu 07 Feb, 2013 7:13 pm |  
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				| That document makes my brain start to smoke.    But the conclusion is very interesting! _________________
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		| ilyaC Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Thu 07 Feb, 2013 9:22 pm |  
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				|  	  | Millet wrote: |  	  | Thanks for the link. A question, When the genome had been finally sequenced can they not tell which  pummelo a what two mandarins were involved? - Millet | 
 Not yet, for this different varieties of pummelo and mandarines should be sequenced. Sure, it will be possible in several years from now.
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		| hoosierquilt Site Admin
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Fri 08 Feb, 2013 1:35 am |  
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				| Thanks, ilya.  A lot of mandarin in the background of the Valencia.  This is very interesting.  I'll be interested to see if the geneticists can ID the mandarins and the particular pummelo.  _________________
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		| ilyaC Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Fri 08 Feb, 2013 4:59 pm |  
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				|  	  | hoosierquilt wrote: |  	  | Thanks, ilya.  A lot of mandarin in the background of the Valencia.  This is very interesting.  I'll be interested to see if the geneticists can ID the mandarins and the particular pummelo. | 
 If these varieties of pummelo and mandarine still exist. The cross that generated a sweet orange took place at least 2400 years ago.
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				| Posted: Fri 08 Feb, 2013 5:38 pm |  
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				| Good point, ilya.  They may have been lost to the ages, since this probably occurred more than 2 millennia ago.  _________________
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