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Posted: Thu 28 Nov, 2013 2:36 am

John and I went to Doremus nursery in Warren,TX today to pick up some mango trees for John. Ted had rescued them from James Francis's house after he died.

On the way back we stopped by my old house in Beaumont to get some citrus fruit for John's open house in Lake Jackson in December. We picked some blood oranges, moro, sanguinelli, and tarocco. Some satsumas, frost owari, dobashi beni, seto, miho, miyagawa. Clementines, de Nules, fina sodea,and algerian. Some lee x nova, tavares limequat, red navels and new zealand lemonade.

We tasted all but were particularly interested in the lemonade fruit. This is the second year I've had lemonade to taste. I had budded one branch on my tarocco tree and it had 3 fruits. It tasted sweet and like a sweetened grocery store lemon, quite the keeper it is.

The owari satsumas tasted particularly good. The early satsumas seto, miho, and miyagawa re mostly gone and past there prime but the mid dobashi bene and late owari were really good, a little on the tart side and they should be getting sweeter. All the more evidence to plant both an early and late satsuma. The leaf footed bugs also did less damage on the late satsumas than the early ones.
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Posted: Thu 28 Nov, 2013 5:00 pm

MrTexas,is New Zealand Lemonade a new variety now available here in the U.S. What mango tree's did you pick-up.I would not mind to grow a couple of mango tree's this spring.
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Posted: Thu 28 Nov, 2013 9:54 pm

You might check w/ Stan. I picked up a NZ Lemonade from him this past summer, I believe he still had one or two more.
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Posted: Thu 28 Nov, 2013 9:55 pm

boneyard3 wrote:
MrTexas,is New Zealand Lemonade a new variety now available here in the U.S. What mango tree's did you pick-up.I would not mind to grow a couple of mango tree's this spring.


NZ lemonade is a new release from the California budwood bureau. The Texas budwood bureau got it for me. Don't know anything about the mangos. John got them all.

http://www.citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/lemonade.html
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Posted: Fri 29 Nov, 2013 1:20 am

New Zealand Lemonade trees must be getting rather easy to locate. I purchased a tree a year or so ago just at a retail nursery shop in Denver. Presently the tree is fully loaded with flowers and with fruit hanging. - Millet
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Posted: Fri 29 Nov, 2013 3:56 pm

Is N.Z.lemonade worth growing in comparetion to others.
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Posted: Sat 30 Nov, 2013 12:16 am

boneyard3 wrote:
Is N.Z.lemonade worth growing in comparetion to others.


IMHO it is the best of the "sweet" lemons in flavor. I've also tasted and grown both sulcata and ujukitsu as well as the acidless pomona sweet lemon. Sulcata and ujukitsu taste only a little bit lemony. Acidless pomona lemon tastes bland and watery. NZ lemonade tastes like a sweetened grocery store lemon to me.
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Posted: Sat 30 Nov, 2013 4:34 pm

I'd like to pick up a NZ Lemonade tree, but I can't seem to find anyone propagating them in California. Anyone know if anyone is propagating this cultivar in California?

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Posted: Sat 30 Nov, 2013 8:32 pm

I believe Tree Source Citrus Nursery has had them in the past.

http://www.citrustreesource.com/files/TRSC%20Avails%202.19.13.pdf
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Posted: Sat 30 Nov, 2013 8:38 pm

Oh my gosh. I will give them a call on Monday. I've picked up a few nice things from them in the past, they are extremely nice to deal with. Great company. Thanks Scott!

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Posted: Mon 02 Dec, 2013 3:00 pm

John and I picked a bunch of different citrus fruit last Wednesday at my Beaumont,TX house for his upcoming open house:

88-2 lee x nova
Still not ready and kind of tart. Virtually no seeds. I have several dozen fruit to pick this year on my topworked tree.

Clementines
Still not ready. We picked de nules, fina sodea, and algerian

Blood oranges
We picked sanguinelli, moro, and tarocco. Some were beginning to show flecks of red. Still not as sweet as they will get.

Satsuma
The late season frost owari and dobashi bene are now getting ready. They still have a tartness but taste pretty good. Miho and Seto are mostly gone as they are very early. Picked a few miyagawa.

Red navels
Tasting better and better

Golden grapefruit
I am still continuing to eat some really nice orange grapefruit. They are as juicy as can be and pretty sweet. These can't be beat for an early sweetening grapefruit.

NZ lemonade
John and I tasted one of the three fruit we picked. Tasted very nice like a grocery store lemon sweetened.

We had a near freeze and frost here in Sugarland, TX area last week. My thermometer showed a low of 33F one morning. All my citrus are still in pots on the back porch waiting for spring. The Houston Chronicle had a blurb on the upcoming Urban Harvest fruit sale Jan 18. Can spring be so close already now that winter has barely begun?
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Posted: Mon 02 Dec, 2013 6:40 pm

Phil, at the 2013 Citrus Expo I tasted Ned's Golden Grapefruit, it was awarded the best of show, and certainly deserved the award. I agree with you that Golden Grapefruit are VERY juicy, but they just don't taste like a good grapefruit. They don't have the crisp tang to make an exciting morning breakfast fruit. (Just my opinion) - Millet
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Posted: Mon 02 Dec, 2013 8:30 pm

Nope they don't taste much like a grapefruit but I like them. But at this time of year all the real grapefruit are too sour to eat.

I don't eat them for breakfast! The seedy goldens I cut in half and then make 8 wedges so the seeds drop out easily.
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