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Las Palmas Norte
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Posted: Thu 05 Nov, 2009 6:56 am

Once I spotted this piece, I wondered what types of the so called "cold hardy" citrus would be suitable from seed.

http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/yuzu.htm

"Propagation: By seeds and grafts. In general, citrus are prone to hybridization and while Yuzu seems to produce close to parent, hybridization is always possible when growing from seeds."

Cheers, Barrie.
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Skeeter
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Posted: Thu 05 Nov, 2009 1:43 pm

Satsuma is one that generally grows true and does well on it's own roots.

Kumquat grows true, but the few I tried to grow from seed did not survive.

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Posted: Thu 05 Nov, 2009 3:03 pm

It's easy to grow Citrus from seeds, a lot of my Citrus are from seeds. Unfortunatly they will flower in 5 to 10 years.
Generally, when you saw one seeds, you can have 2 or 3 (even more) clones, it's the polyembryony.

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Millet
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Posted: Thu 05 Nov, 2009 3:41 pm

Barrie, Yuzu does produce true, or very close to true, from seed. However, reports from members on this forum, and also members on GW, citrus seeds purchased from Trade Winds have had a history of never germinating. - Millet (1,168-)
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Las Palmas Norte
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Posted: Thu 05 Nov, 2009 3:54 pm

Thanks. I had no intentions of buying their seeds. I got curious since I have some of my own Yuzu ripening now and wondered about germination. I'd imagine the poor germination results from Trade Winds may have something to do with seed freshness?

Cheers, Barrie.
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Millet
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Posted: Thu 05 Nov, 2009 4:11 pm

Barrie, exactly. To be fair to Trade Winds, citrus seed viability would be difficult for any seed company. If citrus seed is not kept refrigerated and moist the seed's embryo quickly dies. Therefore, as you say, a fresh seed, or a properly stored seed, needs to be planted to insure germination. - Millet (1,168-)
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MeyerLemon
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Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2009 5:49 pm

Contrary to general experience, my seeds from TradeWinds germinated succesfully.I ordered 6 varieties of citrus seeds 2 years ago, 4 of them were very succesful.Only seeds of 2 varieties were unsuccesful.One of my trees from those seeds, already beard fruit Very Happy
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Esmark78
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Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2009 7:47 pm

@ MeyerLemon was any of them yuzu?

The reason we i ask, is because i bought some and they did not germinate.

/Martin
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MeyerLemon
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Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2009 8:21 pm

Hi Martin,

The unsuccesful 2 varieties were Yuzu and Limequat.

Germinated seeds were; Etrog Citron, Kaffir Lime, Ponderosa Lemon and Key lime.

I asked about this bad reputation they have and they told me they took over the company and now it is run under a new management. I am not sureif it is true or not Very Happy

Sorry for your seeds.
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JartsaP
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Posted: Fri 18 Dec, 2009 12:32 pm

I share the experience of citrus seeds from Trade Winds Fruits never germinating. I ordered several varieties and didn't get one single seedling of those, maybe two years ago or so. Other seeds from them I think have had a bit better percentage. I also bought Kaffir Lime seeds once via EBay, from some (I think) Malaysian or Indonesian seller, none germinated. SO the last time I asked before ordering "are your seeds fresh and not dried" and the answer was "no" (can't remember who was the seller that time) so the decision was easy. I don't understand how some people can continued selling stone dead seeds year after year.

BTW and OT: Ordering chili seeds from Reimer Seeds has also been usually very unsatisfying bussiness, since those germinate only occasionally.
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