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dauben
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Location: Ramona, CA, Zone 9A
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| Posted: Wed 29 Jan, 2014 1:47 am |
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Out of curiosity has anyone ever received the wrong budwood from UCR? I topworked some Xie Shang budwood onto three trees that produced a few fruits this year. None of them were sweet and all tasted like water in an orange skin. 'Curious if I got the right budwood.
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elsedgwick
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Joined: 26 May 2012
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Location: Thomasville, GA (8b)/Tallahassee, Fl (9a microclimate)
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| Posted: Wed 29 Jan, 2014 2:29 pm |
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Can't comment on UCR's reliability, but I think some varieties, particularly among the satsumas, sometimes just don't produce good fruit for the first year (or few). Your description sounds just about right, although they are often dry, as well. |
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dauben
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Location: Ramona, CA, Zone 9A
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| Posted: Wed 29 Jan, 2014 6:19 pm |
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| elsedgwick wrote: | | Can't comment on UCR's reliability, but I think some varieties, particularly among the satsumas, sometimes just don't produce good fruit for the first year (or few). Your description sounds just about right, although they are often dry, as well. |
Good. That means there is hope. One thing I noticed about the trees I grafted (presumably xie shan) was the fruit was relatively large for a mandarin. Do Xie Shan tend to be on the large side?
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Phillip |
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mrtexas
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Joined: 02 Dec 2005
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Location: 9a Missouri City,TX
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| Posted: Thu 30 Jan, 2014 4:22 pm |
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| dauben wrote: | | elsedgwick wrote: | | Can't comment on UCR's reliability, but I think some varieties, particularly among the satsumas, sometimes just don't produce good fruit for the first year (or few). Your description sounds just about right, although they are often dry, as well. |
Good. That means there is hope. One thing I noticed about the trees I grafted (presumably xie shan) was the fruit was relatively large for a mandarin. Do Xie Shan tend to be on the large side?
Thanks,
Phillip |
Fruit size depends on the fruit load. Loaded down, small fruit. I wouldn't expect good satsumas for 5 years at least. |
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Millet
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Location: Colorado
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| Posted: Fri 31 Jan, 2014 1:39 am |
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If you wish to have larger size Xie Shan fruit, prune the number of fruit so that there is one fruit, and only one fruit, for each set of 3 or 4 of the closest leaves to the fruit. It is known that each citrus fruit receives all of its needed energy to become a full sized mature fruit from only the closest 3-4 leaves nearest to the fruit. - Millet |
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dauben
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Location: Ramona, CA, Zone 9A
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| Posted: Sat 01 Feb, 2014 2:14 pm |
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| Millet wrote: | | If you wish to have larger size Xie Shan fruit, prune the number of fruit so that there is one fruit, and only one fruit, for each set of 3 or 4 of the closest leaves to the fruit. It is known that each citrus fruit receives all of its needed energy to become a full sized mature fruit from only the closest 3-4 leaves nearest to the fruit. - Millet |
In this case there were only one our two fruits per tree so they were fairly large. Large, but tasteless. The trees that I top worked are over 25 years old, but the age of the top working is only 1-2 years old.
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Millet
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| Posted: Sat 01 Feb, 2014 4:56 pm |
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1-2 years is still to young to produce high quality fruit. Xie Shan should come into it own around 5 years of age.- Millet |
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