I'm looking for Poncirus trifoliata "Flying Dragon" seeds in the EU.
Normal Poncirus trifoliata seeds could work if no FD are available.

I want to see if the plant can survive outdoors here and use some as root stocks indoors.

I will pay for postage to Sweden and for your time. I have seeds for a few different varieties of hot pepper, if that would be of interest.

Hej Spazze !


I will soon have seeds of Poncirus trifoliata who survived last winter - 28 ° C.
So they surely will do well in Sweden ..

By the way, normal Poncirus is more hardy than the Flying Dragon ...

There is no difference in hardiness between FD & standard trifoliata. The FD is just a dwarf form of trifoliata.

FD will keep the scion grafted to it at a more managable size.

Thanks for your replies and PM's everyone.

I need about 20 seeds. I found this item on Ebay. That would be 6€ for 20 seeds which seems to be a pretty good deal. I'll buy those in a day or so unless a better offer turns up. It would be cool to get scions for grafting of some interesting variety as well.

Sanguinello: I prefer FD seeds. Mostly for the look of the plant I guess
I've got two small seedlings of normal P. trifoliata actually.

FD will take about two years to become decent grating size from seed.

Spazze - be aware that Poncirus seed needs to be fresh from the fruit, or it must be stored correctly at just above freezing. Seed kept in dry conditions at room temperature rapidly loses viability.
Although you may be lucky, most general seed suppliers won't have stored the Poncirus seed in this way. Years ago, I tried buying seed from various UK sources and it never germinated. It was only when I found a fruitful tree that I managed to grow any seedlings. That was the main reason I started listing mature Poncirus specimens at http://www.homecitrusgrowers.co.uk/poncirustrifoliata/wheretoseePT.html
Unfortunately, I've not heard of any in Sweden - although there is one in Copenhagen Botanic Garden!
Here in England, this years fruits are not quite ready. Probably take another two or three weeks to colour properly.

Mine are almost all on the ground already. There are still some hanging on. They have been ready for at least a month now.

citrange: thanks for your reminder about the viability of not-so-fresh seeds. I've bought dead seeds in the past.
Will you have FD fruits ready in a few weeks or only normal poncirus trifoliata? I'm a little bit worried about the temperatures here, it's been below freezing one morning already. It would be sad to receive frozen seeds.

Your list of specimens is great. I wish we could have an interactive map of Europe, for example, where we could add citrus related sights. For example we have a Pumelo tree indoors at the Stockholm botanical garden (Bergianska tradgarden).

> It would be sad to receive frozen seeds.
Don't wory. That will never hapen!!!

I only have standard fruits. My FD flowered well for the first time this year, but a late frost killed all the blooms.
A few degrees of frost will do no harm at all to Poncirus seeds so long as they are still in the fruit. It seems to contain some kind of protective anti-freeze. I have left a bag of fruits outside all winter, and they germinated perfectly the next spring. Admittedly, this was in a sheltered spot and nowhere near as cold as Sweden, but certainly well below freezing on several occasions.