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RitaB1001



Joined: 30 Jan 2007
Posts: 8
Location: Brandon, FL

Posted: Wed 18 Apr, 2007 7:25 pm

I just bought a Fuyu persimmon at a plant sale and all the leaves are droopy even though I watered it well when I planted it...Is this normal? Will the leaves fall off, and if so, does that endanger the tree?
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bencelest
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Location: Salinas, California

Posted: Thu 19 Apr, 2007 12:49 am

How is your Fuyu now? Did it recover? I suspect it will be since you water it when you transplanted it.
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Patty_in_wisc
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Location: zone 5 Milwaukee, Wi

Posted: Thu 19 Apr, 2007 1:19 am

May be a little transplant shock. Keep it out of direct sunlight for couple days & don't over water...let it dry out a bit, & don't fertilize when it is stressed. Keep us posted on how it is doing.

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RitaB1001



Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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Location: Brandon, FL

Posted: Thu 19 Apr, 2007 10:35 am

Very Happy Hallelujah! I just went outside to check on the persimmon tree and was elated to see the leaves back to their perky selves! It's the first tree I've transplanted that has done that to me, and I was really worried about it...I'll check on it today to see if it has enough moisture without being overwatered...it's in partial shade, so I think that will help. (How moist does it need to be? I usually water the other fruit trees every other day unless it's been unusually hot---some of our Florida hot days can suck the moisture right out of the ground!!)
Thank you so much for your replies...It's nice knowing I'm not in this alone...
Rita
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Malcolm_Manners
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Location: Lakeland Florida

Posted: Thu 19 Apr, 2007 4:40 pm

Rita, in Brandon, I'll assume you're on rather sandy, fast-draining soil? If so, you don't need to worry about over-watering for the first several weeks. Once the plant has established for 4-6 weeks, then you can cut back on the water, but I'd flood it a couple times a week, for now, UNLESS your soil is poorly drained.

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JoeReal
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Joined: 16 Nov 2005
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Location: Davis, California

Posted: Thu 19 Apr, 2007 4:59 pm

Was it bare-rooted when you planted it? Persimmons have more sensitive roots than the other deciduous fruiting trees. Sometimes they would go into a shock, drop their leaves and then leaf out the next year.
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RitaB1001



Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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Location: Brandon, FL

Posted: Thu 19 Apr, 2007 5:18 pm

No, it wasn't bare root...it was in soil when I got it at the plant sale last Saturday. I kept it in the pot, in the spot where it was going to be planted, until Tuesday afternoon, when I planted it. Roots weren't bound, and the soil was dropping off around them into the hole where I planted it. This morning, it looked great, all nice and crisp and ready to go and this afternoon (in mostly shade today) it's droopy again. Confused I guess I'll just check it everyday and see if it keeps its leaves or not...as long as it survives, I'll be happy...I wasn't really counting on it giving fruit this year anyway...
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JoeReal
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Posted: Thu 19 Apr, 2007 5:22 pm

In that case, remove or snip off about 2/3 of your remaining canopy that have leaves. It is heart-breaking, but that is the trick that Benny here will do in a heartbeat to make sure your plant will survive. And follow advice of Prof Manners about the watering trick.
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bencelest
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Location: Salinas, California

Posted: Thu 19 Apr, 2007 8:55 pm

Yes, that's the trick when I transplant my plants but not always.
It depends how much roots were exposed to the air. If the soil from the pot were not jarred and the roots stayed covered with the original soil I won't do a thing to the leaves and roots. After transplant, I'd just soak the sorrounding soil nice and gooey. But if the plant lost a lot of its roots and the remaining roots were bare, I do cut the top branches in proportion with the lost roots.
And I covered the plants from the sun until I am certain there are no more drooping of leaves. I don't use fertilizer at this time (my opinion only).
A testament to this is when I dug Joe's calamondin from his place and planted it in my place. It was over 7 feet but to fit in the car I cut the tops off to 4 feet and wrapped the roots with wet burlap. And I put a tempt shade for a week.
Now it over 12 feet.
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