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		| Mark_T Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Tue 07 Jul, 2009 3:50 am |  
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				| Can someone give me a breakdown on the year round producing trees in the lemon,lime,orange,grapefruit,mandarin group? I'd really like year round productions on some of my trees.  |  | 
	
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		| gdbanks Citruholic
 
  
 
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				| Posted: Tue 07 Jul, 2009 11:23 am |  
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				| I think you are asking for the ideal cocktail tree. 
  	  | Millet wrote: |  	  | Sweet orange production has three seasons in Florida: 
 Early Fruit (before December) - 'Navel', 'Hamlin, 'Parson Brown'
 Midseason Fruit (December to February) - 'Queen', 'Pineapple'
 Late Fruit  (February to Summer) - 'Valencia', one of the best quality oranges for juice and fresh fruit.
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 Millet just put this up in another thread for oranges so a combination or all of those verities of oranges in a cocktail tree would produce year round fruit. Meyer lemons can produce year round.
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		| Laaz Site Owner
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Tue 07 Jul, 2009 2:27 pm |  
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				| Most citrus will only have one flowering flush a year. The only citrus that bloom year round are lemons, limes, citrons and Calomondins. 
 Mandarins, oranges, grapefruit, kumquats and pumello only have one major bloom in Late winter / early spring. Some will produce a few flowers later in the season but noting major.
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		| Mark_T Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Wed 08 Jul, 2009 1:54 am |  
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				| Ok, so all lemon and limes bloom year round?
 Is there a Mandarin (I want Page) that would fit in between my Cara Cara and my MK Valencia? Would a Trovita fill the gap?
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		| Skeeter Moderator
 
  
 
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				| Posted: Wed 08 Jul, 2009 9:34 pm |  
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				| Even lemons and limes put on the vast majority of their fruit in spring. I got over 100 lemons from the spring bloom last yr--picked them from August (green) until May when the last few dropped on their own. There are only 2 on the tree now from the fall bloom--there may have been a total of 6 at most.  _________________
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		| Hilltop Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Thu 09 Jul, 2009 4:16 am |  
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				| On the tags that come with the trees, when it gives you a time frame for fruits, does that usually refer to when the tree flowers or when the fruits ripen and are ready for picking?
 Also, generally speaking how many months does it take from when the flowers appear and when it is ripe enough to pick?
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		| Malcolm_Manners Citrus Guru
 
  
 
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				| Posted: Thu 09 Jul, 2009 11:12 am |  
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				| You can't really give a single answer to the amount of time between flowering and maturity of fruit -- it varies so much by variety.  I can give some Florida numbers.  I would expect Arizona's data to be more similar to California, where the amount of time will usually be considerably longer.
 But as an example, in central Florida, most of our citrus flower in the spring, and here in Lakeland, the 3rd week in March will, on average, be peak bloom week.
 
 Then maturity dates:
 
 Oranges
 Hamlin  Oct or Nov through Jan
 Parson Brown  Oct or Nov through Jan
 Navel (most types)  late Nov through Jan
 Pineapple, Queen, Gardner, Midsweet -- Jan through March or April
 Valencia, Lue Gim Gong, Pope Summer -- March through June or July
 
 Grapefruit -- most red varieties, Oct or Nov through March or April
 Duncan -- January through June
 Marsh -- February through June
 
 Mandarins
 Satsuma -- October
 Sunburst and Lee -- October through November
 Robinson -- November
 Ponkan -- December/Jan
 Dancy -- late December through mid-January
 Murcott -- January through at least March
 
 Tangelo
 Orlando  November
 Minneola  January
 
 So overall, in our conditions, the minimum would be a bit over 6 months, and the maximum perhaps 13-14 months, from bloom to harvest.
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		| Hilltop Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Fri 10 Jul, 2009 12:55 am |  
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				| On my fruit cocktail tree my limes and Navel and Valencia oranges started flowering a few weeks ago.  The limes are growing incredibly fast and some fruits are already half an inch in diameter.  The Navel and Valencias are still flowers and are also getting new shoot/leaf growth.  |  | 
	
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		| pagnr Citrus Guru
 
  
 
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				| Posted: Fri 10 Jul, 2009 8:01 pm |  
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				| On the one hand you could consider varieties that flower and set fruit year round.
On the other hand there are varieties that bloom once, but hold quality fruit on the tree over long periods, in effect "year round producers"
 The opposite list would be those varieties where fruit quality is at a peak only for a short period. Probably a lot of mandarins on this one.
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