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disneygirl
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Location: Methuen, MA - Zone 6

Posted: Sat 06 May, 2006 3:21 am

What kind of bug eats/makes the inside of the watermelon VINE and makes it hollow. So far I only lost one plant(still have 7 left) I have not seen any bugs of any kind (except for the occassional fire ant, unless this is the evil do-er) but I have found chewed piles of the inside of the vine on the soil.

Nothing I have read on watermelon pests describe what has happened.

Ideas are very much appreciated.

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Patty_in_wisc
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Location: zone 5 Milwaukee, Wi

Posted: Sat 06 May, 2006 4:03 am

Your plants sure do have a way of attracting all kinds of nasty pests - some I never heard of LOL.
You found "chewed piles of the inside of the vine on soil"??? Now, that's a new one LOL. I gotta ask...how'd you know they were the chewed up insides of vines? You are very observant....I woulda missed that.

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JoeReal
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Posted: Sat 06 May, 2006 6:36 am

Could only think about beetles and their nasty relatives. Japanese beetles love cucurbits including watermelons. Vines of cucurbits and watermelons are naturally hollow.
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disneygirl
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Posted: Sat 06 May, 2006 2:15 pm

Yes, they are hollow however, when I cut the vine it was a thin as paper (maybe thinner). So even though healthy vine is hollow there is a signifigant difference between the healthy and the dead one.

This is what It looked like on April 23rd. The vine growing to the left is the one I lost.



This it today. It really has grown alot, even with the loss if that one plant. I have added the string about a week ago to keep it off of the soil. It has done better since I have done this, as far as losing parts due to touching the moist soil. The very top and to the right are actulaay growing on the cement. I had to move it back so it wouldn't wrap itself around the grass and the aloe plant.





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Ned
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Location: Port Royal, SC (Zone 8b)

Posted: Sat 06 May, 2006 10:45 pm

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Patty_in_wisc
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Posted: Sun 07 May, 2006 12:16 am

Disney, that "sawdust- like frass at base of plant" must be what you were referring to as "chewed piles" huh? I think Ned hit the nail on the head here. Nice going Ned! Man, those are some UGLY looking things. Reminds me of Iris boarers I find in my Iris tubers. YUK
Ihave bugs the last 3 years in yard that I've never seen before, & there are more every year. They look similar to the squash bug - 3rd pic down in Ned's link, except it has brite orange markings/lines on sides...easy to spot. about 1/2 inch long. If I can get a good close up, I'll post it.
Last summer my neighbor said they were all over his yard - once, as he was talking on phone, they were all over his arm! Freaked him out. He said neighbor next to him had a bunch in his yard the yr before. Looks like there'll be a bunch moving to my yard this summer..if this is the pattern of these 'guys'.

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Ned
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Posted: Sun 07 May, 2006 10:36 am

They are a problem here with squash, cucumber and watermelons and related crops. I am sure they are also a problem in Florida. They can be very difficult to control.

I haven't had a vegetable garden in years, so I don't know what is currently recommended. Your county agent might help. Stan grows watermelons on his farm, but he most likely uses a restricted pesticide.

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JoeReal
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Posted: Sun 07 May, 2006 11:36 am

They would make wonderful baits for fishing. If you were nearby, I would grab some.
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Ned
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Posted: Sun 07 May, 2006 3:48 pm

Joe,

Catalpa worms use to be the number 1 fishing worm (caterpiller) hereabouts! Great for blue gill, cat fish, etc.. I like the "bite their head off and turn um inside out" method. Years ago, many yards in SC (and I am sure other SE states) had a catalpa tree or two in the yard. I don't fish in fresh water anymore, but I assume catalpa trees are still around.

http://www.catalpaworms.com/
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