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				| Posted: Thu 26 Jul, 2012 2:15 pm |  
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				| My poor Tahitian pummelo has really struggled (as most of my pummelos are, see my other thread on that), and I finally had to dig it out.  I've potted it up to try to save it, but it will be a long shot.  So, now trying to find a source for a Tahitian pummelo.  I know that Willits & Newcomb do grow them, but they appear to be selling exclusively? to Costco, and my 3 local Costcos never carried anything interesting this season.  Also, Monterey Bay Nursery (Luen) also grows them, but due to the hightened restrictions and spraying requirements now with that outbreak of HLB in Los Angeles county, he is having to change how he ships citrus, so we can no longer get ones of things from him sent to his retail accounts.  So, anyone out there in California aware of where I might be able to buy a replcement Tahitian pummelo??  Thanks.  _________________
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				| Posted: Thu 26 Jul, 2012 3:32 pm |  
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				| Why not take a good stick from it & bud it onto one of your trees that is going good?  _________________
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		| hoosierquilt Site Admin
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Thu 26 Jul, 2012 4:21 pm |  
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				| Yea. Here's what it looks like, Laaz:
   
Not much to work with.  Yet.  Cross your fingers.  I may be imagining things, but the little tree looks to be a wee bit better since I've potted it up 2 days ago. _________________
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				| Posted: Thu 26 Jul, 2012 4:29 pm |  
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				| You should have plenty of buds to work with there. I have budded much worse and been successful...  _________________
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				| Posted: Thu 26 Jul, 2012 4:39 pm |  
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				| From what I've read on the forum Laaz, you could grow a citrus in cement:) I always turn green with envy when I see the fruits of your labour.  |  | 
	
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				| Posted: Thu 26 Jul, 2012 4:51 pm |  
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				| Well, I guess I can give it a try, Laaz.  I'll have to review the instructions on the forum - next grafted citrus before.  Or, I can try to run up to Clausen's and have them help me do some bud grafting.  I'll have to order rootstock, so guess this is a good opportunity to test C35 versus Troyer/Carrizo.  I will check with Luen at Monterey Bay Nursery to see what rootstock the Tahitian was on - this came from his wholesale nursery.  He may not have done the grafting, he may have bought the grafted trees from Willits & Newcomb, so I can jet them off an email, too.  Interestingly, I just bought another Cocktail from Clausen's, and this one is on Volk, so I'm curious to see how this one does, compared to the one I have on Carrizo which is also struggling.  Again, another grafting option I guess!  _________________
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				| Posted: Thu 26 Jul, 2012 4:53 pm |  
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				| I'll give you a little hint, water that in with a good dose of rooting hormone.    _________________
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				| Posted: Thu 26 Jul, 2012 4:56 pm |  
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				| Patty, there really nothing to it. link 
I wish I could grow on concrete!    _________________
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				| Posted: Thu 26 Jul, 2012 5:21 pm |  
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				| Thanks, Laaz.  I'm pretty good grafting stone fruits, but that is cleft grafting and not bud grafting.  But, I'm an RN, used to doing sutures and have small fingers and am pretty deft at stuff like this.  I'll give it my best shot.  Thanks for the words of confidence.  What the heck, I'll be in the same place I was before I started if it all fails, so nothing to lose.  _________________
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		| eyeckr Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Thu 26 Jul, 2012 6:43 pm |  
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				| Patty, 
 
Just because it is citrus you don't have to  bud graft it. I prefer bark grafting citrus versus bud grafting anyway but cleft grafting works well too. Since you have experience cleft grafting you might as well cleft graft your tree. In fact when I don't have any slipping wood during certain months of the year to bark graft I cleft graft with a lot of success. You may even want to consider grafting a back up or two of your Tahitian on the other trees in your yard that are doing well. Who knows, this could be the start of the next 80 in 1 California citrus tree    |  | 
	
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				| Posted: Thu 26 Jul, 2012 6:52 pm |  
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				| Thanks, eyeker.  I will look into all options.  Not sure I've got enough scion wood for a cleft graft.  Maybe.  Definitely I could sneak off a couple of buds.  Laaz' directions make it look so easy.  Clausen's Nursery here in Vista does a TON of grafting, and I could ask pretty please and they would help me to graft up a few. And, you've made a good point.  I have 25 C35 rootstocks winging their way to me next week.  Maybe I'll graft up my Mato Buntan, Chironja and my Ortanique.  All so rare now that citrus is under such strict quarantines here in Calif after the HLB scare.  _________________
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				| Posted: Thu 26 Jul, 2012 11:14 pm |  
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				|  	  | hoosierquilt wrote: |  	  | Thanks, eyeker.  I will look into all options.  Not sure I've got enough scion wood for a cleft graft.  Maybe.  Definitely I could sneak off a couple of buds.  Laaz' directions make it look so easy.  Clausen's Nursery here in Vista does a TON of grafting, and I could ask pretty please and they would help me to graft up a few. And, you've made a good point.  I have 25 C35 rootstocks winging their way to me next week.  Maybe I'll graft up my Mato Buntan, Chironja and my Ortanique.  All so rare now that citrus is under such strict quarantines here in Calif after the HLB scare. | 
 
 You would do much better if you can get a flush of growth and get some green buds.
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				| Posted: Thu 26 Jul, 2012 11:41 pm |  
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				| Well, yes.  In an ideal world.  But, as you can see by the photo, this poor little tree is a step away from death's door.  So, if I try to wait for a "green flush", I may end up with deadwood, instead of budwood.    _________________
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				| Posted: Sun 29 Jul, 2012 12:17 am |  
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				| Laaz, I did use quite a bit of Rootone when I re-potted it.  Dusted all the roots that were left extremely well, and powdered in the hole, too.  Watered in with SuperThrive and have used Osmocote Plus.  So, I've done everything I can think us to help this tree revive itself.  It's in shade with some later afternoon slanted sun.  I'll water it with SuperThrive and Rootone in water.  I'm going to give it a bit.  If it looks like it's going downhill, I'll snag some buds and try to bud graft.  Not sure I've got enough of a stem or branch to cleft graft, but I can try.  Say a little prayer for this poor little tree.  I should have dug it up months ago.  I feel like a citrus tree murderer.    _________________
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				| Posted: Sun 29 Jul, 2012 10:09 am |  
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				| it just looks to me as you have too alcaline soil.
 just change the PH-Level then ...
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