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Blood or Pigmented oranges.
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JoeReal Site Admin
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 4726 Location: Davis, California
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Posted: Fri 04 May, 2007 12:24 pm |
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These are the remaining ones I wanted to collect. Does anyone know who have any of these? These are in the holdings of UCR but not distributed to the public:
Burris blood Valencia orange 539547 Burris grove, Riverside CA 1933
Vaccaro blood orange (ops) 218019 Plant Introduction greenhouse, Riverside (CRC) 1959
Sanguine grosse ronde (ops) 539548 Field 6A, R-6, T-9, CRC 1960
Entre Fina blood orange (ops) 229987 Joe Furr, USDCS, Indio CA 1968
Sanguinello a pignu (ops) 265 539553 USDCS, Indio CA, via CCPP 1965
Currently I have:
Cara-cara
Moro
Red Valencia
Ruby Blood
Sanguina Doble Fina
Sanguinelli
Tarocco
Vainiglia Sanguigno
Washington Sanguine
And Currently On order:
Delfino (or Delphino)
Bream Tarocco |
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citrusboy Citruholic
Joined: 14 May 2006 Posts: 170 Location: Southern California Coastal
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Posted: Tue 08 May, 2007 12:16 am |
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Hi Joe,
Why don't you send an email to UCR to see if they have any of that fruit left on the tree. They may be able to yank a few off and send them to you if you pay the overnight shipping on your fedex account.
You'll at least be able to get the seeds. _________________ citrusboy aka marc
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citrusboy Citruholic
Joined: 14 May 2006 Posts: 170 Location: Southern California Coastal
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Posted: Tue 19 Jun, 2007 1:28 am |
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Hi Joe,
Did you get most of your seedlings to sprout yet?
I now have 4 Entre Fina Blood Orange Seedlings, 3 Vaccaro Blood Orange Seedlings, 1 Sangunello a pignu and 1 Sanguine Gross Ronde seedling so far.
Good Luck! _________________ citrusboy aka marc
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JoeReal Site Admin
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 4726 Location: Davis, California
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Posted: Tue 19 Jun, 2007 2:21 am |
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Hi Citrusboy!
Thanks for those wonderful fruits. Unfortunately I've got only 1 to 3 seeds from those and they look abnormally small seeds and none sprouted,
I will post my fruit evaluation of them as soon as I remember the file name that I have saved them. I'll wait for budwoods from you, or until the UCR opens them up to the public,
Joe |
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JoeReal Site Admin
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 4726 Location: Davis, California
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Posted: Wed 26 Mar, 2008 3:00 pm |
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As promised, I finally found the notes that I have about the non-public blood oranges that Marc graciously send me fruits to sample.
Here's my evaluation:
Pignu
3" oval diameter and 2.5" pole diameter. Shape is slightly oval. Skin is dark orange like tangerine with some microscopic red dots. Skin as some irregularities like wide allergy bumps. Doesn't peel very well, some flesh attached to the rind when peeling off. No trace of blood color in the flesh. Sweet taste like navel, but with some pleasant aroma. 5 seeds.
Sanguine Grosse Ronde
Round, 2.5" by 2.5" slightly flattened at poles. Skin is dark orange like tangerine with some microscopic red dots. Skin as some irregularities like wide allergy bumps. slighly fewer microscopic red dots but more bumpier skin than Pignu. Doesn't peel very well, worse than PIGNU, flesh attached to the rind when peeling off. No trace of blood color nor splotches in the flesh, might require more extreme temperature fluctuations in order to develop. Sweet taste like navel, but very small amount of acid, almost insipid. has 16 seeds.
Vaccaro
Smooth skin with tiny red dots the effects of which are darker red orange peel color. Elongated, slightly longer at the poles than equatorial diameter. 3" pole diameter, 2.75" equatorial diameter. Some flesh adheres when peeled off by hand. Pleasantly very sweet with hints of ripe pineapples, doesn't peel well. flesh is orange, no pigmentation at all, nor splotches in the flesh, might require more extreme temperature fluctuations in order to develop. Only one seed.
Entre Fina
Smoother skin than Grosse Ronde and Pignu, but not as smooth as Vaccaro. Has very few roughness on the peel. Also have tiny red dots. Slightly oval with poles longer. 2.75" at the poles and 2.5" equatorial. As sweet as Sanguine Grosse but not as sweet as vaccaro. Flesh does not adhere to skin when peeled off carefully. Pulps are firm, like Pummelo. The segment skin are thinner than the others. It has very few red splotches scattered in the flesh all through out, but very very few, the red colored splotches on the pulps are like the size of a regular sharpie permanent marking pen, and are found near the outer edges of the segments but within the flesh. 2 seeds.
Burris
Smoother skin than Entre Fina but not as smooth as Vaccaro. Skin has tiny red dots the effects of which are darker red orange peel color. Elongated, slightly longer at the poles than equatorial diameter, 3" pole diameter, 2.75" equatorial diameter. Can be peeled by hand without flesh coming apart or along. Nice blend of acid and sweetness, with some hints of passion fruit and pineapple. Flesh is orange. There are a few pulps that are partially pigmented reddish to purplish per sector. 2 seeds. |
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citrusboy Citruholic
Joined: 14 May 2006 Posts: 170 Location: Southern California Coastal
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Posted: Wed 26 Mar, 2008 3:39 pm |
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Nice work Joe. Pretty thorough. Now that I think about it, I probably should have taken pics of everything before eating/juicing/and planting seeds. _________________ citrusboy aka marc
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Mark_T Citruholic
Joined: 30 Jun 2009 Posts: 757 Location: Gilbert,AZ
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Posted: Wed 28 Oct, 2009 6:47 am |
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Joe can you share some thoughts on flavor, growth and anything else of note about the Sanguinelli, Tarocco and Smith Red Valencia? I have the Moro and Cara and I'm looking to add another. |
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JoeReal Site Admin
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 4726 Location: Davis, California
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Posted: Wed 28 Oct, 2009 7:22 pm |
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Tarocco is consistently the best tasting. Sanguinelli at times tasted good, but most times, it is dry and tart but has the deepest color. Smith Red at times tasted like Moro, but when really kept long, will develop that mild sweet flavor which I like. |
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