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plantguy Citruholic
Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 91 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Tue 27 Dec, 2005 4:26 am |
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Good Ground. Thanks for the input. It looks as though I will bring my 2 plants in tommorrow. We'll see what happens.
As far as figs go, I have been hooked on growing them also. Mine are grown in containers. I noticed from your other post that you keep it in your sunroom. Have you been doing this for years? The reason why I ask is because I have been told to keep them in an area with NO light. A garage or shed with no light & a watering once a month so the roots don't dry out should hold your fig tree over until mother's day when it is pretty much safe to bring it outside. There's a nursery here on long island that specializes on container grown figs. A bit pricey but they have over 100 types from all over the world. Sad part is that they will be closing down soon. The guy there gave me my lesson in figs. I think he has fig juice running though his veins! |
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6656 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Tue 27 Dec, 2005 11:28 am |
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Plantguy, if you bring the container soil temperatures up to 65-70F, before you bring the trees indoors and place them in a direct southern window, I don't think you would have any trouble.
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Chops Citruholic
Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 86 Location: Zone 6b, NY, USA
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Posted: Thu 29 Dec, 2005 2:06 pm |
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Plantguy, I know the nursery you are talking about as I got my fig there as well. THEY ARE CLOSING DOWN?!!! When was this announced? I better visit them again soon.
I also learned most of my fig knowledge from them. They are quite knowledgeable when it comes to figs. One of their trees is over 30 years old! I keep mine in an unattached garage and black out the windows. Although I've heard elsewhere that the light shouldn't make a difference. I guess there are as many opinions as there are people. |
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plantguy Citruholic
Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 91 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Thu 29 Dec, 2005 7:54 pm |
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Chops, I was last there around October. They said that they had some offers & if all goes smooth, sometime in 2006 they will be shutting down. As you know, great place if you are into figs. Sad to see it go. They did have some citrus around but very expensive. The same 2-3' plant they were selling for $150 was going for about $40-50 at Hicks Nursery.- Vinny |
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plantguy Citruholic
Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 91 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Wed 25 Jan, 2006 2:54 am |
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Regarding my earlier posts about moving my tree indoors. I did move them into my wash room. Since this is the coldest room in the house I figured they would adjust better then bringing them right into the main part of the house where it is warmer. This room basically has the lights off about 23 hours of the day but gets some other light from time to time. It has been a couple of weeks now with basically little leaf drop. What I notice now is that new growth is starting, along with loads of buds! It seems to be doing well in such a dark spot, should I leave it alone or make the move to a more lit area.
As far as my Meyer Lemon goes. This has been indoors since early fall. Everything has been good. It has been holding fruit which seem to be getting bigger. Just about 2 weeks ago it has been going through massive leaf drop. About 90% are gone. The fruit are still holding. The branches that lost leaves are now turning brown and dying. It is not near a heating vent. Any idea what could be causing this? - Vinny |
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Mantis212 Citruholic
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 29 Location: New York City/Long Island
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Posted: Wed 25 Jan, 2006 1:09 pm |
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Hey Vinnie, Im her in Long Island also.. We are going to get a 50 degree day this week. If you where going to move them in house I would do it during this week.
The day of, turn your house temp down alittle bit that will help.
The humidity in your house will be dryer so I would spritz the trees for a while and gradually taper it off so it will adjust slowly to a dryer condition. Dry periods don't bother them as much as sudden changes.
The weather channel said there is a artic mass in Alaska and could be pushing its way to the states. If you leave them in the porch I would drag them as close to the house as possible and hang a old blanket or sheet from the wall of the house to the floor and put some christmas lights around the pots to create a micro climate.
Below 50* the tree is asleep and should not be in the sun or over watered. Just enough to not let them dry out. Root rot in the winter is the worst.
I have two Meyers, a Ponderosa, Morro, Sanguinelli, Cara Cara, Miho and my favorite a Kishu. All doin fine, but mine are in house.
Hope this Helps, Mantis |
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plantguy Citruholic
Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 91 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Wed 25 Jan, 2006 5:14 pm |
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Mantis, Yes, a heat wave is comming our way, ha, ha. I did happen to move them in but if you see my recent post I'm not sure if I should leave them where it is?
Have you posted any pic's yet? Myself being a novice in citrus growing, I would love to see how other citrus plants are growing in my area. Thanks again for the info. Vinny |
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Mantis212 Citruholic
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 29 Location: New York City/Long Island
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Posted: Wed 25 Jan, 2006 7:21 pm |
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Hey Vinnie,
I don't have pics yet but I am working on that. Do you have any extra suntan lotion i can borrow? For our heat wave!
If you are seeing growth , then the temps are above 50 and you will need full sun! The buds you see are, a stored energy thing. The new growth without sun will stretch to reach the light causing really week branches and extra large light green leaves. Then when you move to a sunny location all those leaves will turn black and fall off. They where made to capture the most light possible and will fry in the direct sun..also the flowers will bloom from stored energey but surly not hold the fruit! So before it becomes what you will hear as leggy, I would move to a south facing window.
A good thing is that it prob. has aclimated to the houses humidity.
Mine get about 4 hours of direct sun in winter in the house and thats seems to be just fine. I tried once to give them at least 6hrs of direct sun by moving them from window to window but that didn 't last for more than one winter and they look the same with 4 so.
Good luck and enjoy our one day of almost 50*, Mantis |
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plantguy Citruholic
Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 91 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Fri 27 Jan, 2006 3:53 am |
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Mantis, Thank you very much for the interesting info. I'll keep you posted. Vinny |
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David Wright
Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Posts: 5 Location: North West England
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Posted: Wed 13 Dec, 2006 7:09 pm |
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Hi, I have been growing lemons for 20 years in the UK , just found this Forum if I can be of help please ask . |
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Patty_in_wisc Citrus Angel
Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 1842 Location: zone 5 Milwaukee, Wi
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Posted: Wed 13 Dec, 2006 10:26 pm |
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Well hello David, & WELCOME!
I'm not sure what to do either. My plants are in a well insulated but unheated sunroom. The lowest it got was in upper 40's F. In late Oct., I noticed several citrus getting blossoms just when I thought they were going dormant. Ave. night temps will be 40's to low 50 - esp later in winter. I can open french doors from kitchen to let heat in but really can't afford to keep it heated to 60 or so all winter.
Is it true that soil temps are same as air temp? I heard, if air temp is 60, soil temps will be 60. Also heard that soil temps are lower then air temps because of the dampness of soil.
I use flourescent lites till 7:30 p.m. (was 'till 9)
If AVE. temp in there is 55-56 (night lows & day highs), will they go dormant & lose blossoms & baby fruits (many babies!). I also have many plants having new growth--can't count blossoms.
If ave air temp is 56, will ave soil temp be same? If I can't keep temps there, should I cut the fleurescent lites? I gets dark here by 4:15 in Dec.
They are in south facing window.
Can't keep it over an ave 56 (esp in Jan-Feb), but want to keep the babies & blossoms.
Thanks _________________ Patty
I drink wine to make other people more interesting
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David Wright
Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Posts: 5 Location: North West England
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Posted: Thu 14 Dec, 2006 12:07 am |
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Hi, Patty
The temp is fine your lucky, hope the plant is not to close to the glass if so move it back, some bloom drop is normal. They can handel temps down to low levels as long as the drop is not acute, have you tried polinating the plant yourself.
evertried lemon wine! |
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Patty_in_wisc Citrus Angel
Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 1842 Location: zone 5 Milwaukee, Wi
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Posted: Thu 14 Dec, 2006 12:25 am |
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I have smaller plants on every inch of window sill, & some trees that are close to glass, but hasn't been a problem. Windows are insulated dbl glass.
I never needed to pollinate any - they do it all by themselves
Nope, never had nor heard of lemon wine! I do makes wines, but JoeReal here makes citrus wines. Do you make it or buy it --& WHERE? _________________ Patty
I drink wine to make other people more interesting
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David Wright
Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Posts: 5 Location: North West England
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Posted: Thu 14 Dec, 2006 12:36 am |
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Hi, Patty
Having only just joined this forum what is wrong with your plant! |
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6656 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Thu 14 Dec, 2006 1:14 am |
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Patty, if you are going to keep your trees dormant this winter (<55.4F) the extra night lighting will not do any good. You might as well save on the light bill. When a container is placed in higher temperatures the soil can be somewhat cooler than the air, due to water evaporating from the surface of the medium. However, is a cool room such as your trees are now in, any evaporation is minimal, therefore the soil should be about the same temperature as the average air temperature. How is the arm? BTW I tossed out the guava that Tamara gave me. It did produce a lot of fruit, but I did not care for the taste of the fruit. - Millet |
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