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Beargraft
Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Posts: 5 Location: San Jose Ca
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mrtexas Citruholic
Joined: 02 Dec 2005 Posts: 1029 Location: 9a Missouri City,TX
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Posted: Mon 23 Jan, 2012 9:10 pm |
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Those are for grafting grape vines. |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5668 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Mon 23 Jan, 2012 9:44 pm |
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I know Joe has used the Omega tool. Never felt like spending the money on one.
For me, one size fits all...
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Mark_T Citruholic
Joined: 30 Jun 2009 Posts: 757 Location: Gilbert,AZ
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Posted: Mon 23 Jan, 2012 11:20 pm |
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I've just been using a cheap utility blade. Covering anything expensive in bleach isn't too smart.
I do wish I could find a good set of clippers that could hold up to bleach. |
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Tue 24 Jan, 2012 12:30 am |
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I have taken Ned's advice. I use a utility knife, but with carpet trimmer blades.The blade is beveled on just one side, like a budding knife. They work very well. The one sided bevel allows for nice straight cuts. In fact when I could not find one sided blades in my area, Ned was kind enough to purchase them in SC, then sent them to me. The one sided blades can be normally found at Home Depot in the carpet section.- Millet (363 ABO-) |
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GT Citruholic
Joined: 11 Jul 2010 Posts: 395 Location: Beaumont, TX (zone 9a)
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Posted: Tue 24 Jan, 2012 2:31 am |
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Beargraft,
nice looking toys! I was always curious about such tools but a simple ebay-bought China-made grafting knife serves all my needs.
Good luck! |
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Beargraft
Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Posts: 5 Location: San Jose Ca
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Posted: Tue 24 Jan, 2012 1:38 pm |
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The reason I figured that I would post the question was because they look interesting and especially for a V-cut or the Omega cut, it would be very difficult to duplicate these two types of cuts with a razor/utility knife. Now I am not sure if these two types of cuts are any good but the following video did perk my attention:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvg1WkFhPyI
There are even other models such as the one below however, I was mostly interested in finding out about the ones that I asked about above, since they looked to be more mobile.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFBmmNDaVag
LAAZ: If Joe did use it before, it would be great to get his opinion on how he felt the tool performed the cut (i.e. exactness, or mulcher..etc). _________________ Dont leave for tomorrow what you can do today. |
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Terry Citruholic
Joined: 21 Nov 2005 Posts: 243 Location: Wilmington, NC
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Posted: Tue 24 Jan, 2012 3:28 pm |
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I use a Bard-Parker Scalpel handle with a #25 blade. This is what I use in my dental lab. After using it for 30 or 40 years I find that it fits my hand well. ItÂ’s not a skinny handle like the surgical handles.
Terry
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5668 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Tue 24 Jan, 2012 3:34 pm |
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Beargraft, Joe no longer participates on the forum.
The only real issue I see with the tool is that budwood & rootstock would have to be the exact same size which would be a pain in the butt. With budding or cleft grafting you don't have that problem. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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mrtexas Citruholic
Joined: 02 Dec 2005 Posts: 1029 Location: 9a Missouri City,TX
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Posted: Tue 24 Jan, 2012 4:10 pm |
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Most citrus grafters do t-buds so this tool wouldn't be a help. |
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buddinman Citrus Guru
Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 342 Location: Lumberton Texas zone 8
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Posted: Wed 25 Jan, 2012 1:05 pm |
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I used a Tina grafting knife for years and have no complaint. Also at this time use a Kamphaus grafting knife that I REALLY like. The old Tina was given to my grandson a couple of years ago, had it since 1967. The Tina was well used. |
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Beargraft
Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Posts: 5 Location: San Jose Ca
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Posted: Wed 25 Jan, 2012 3:45 pm |
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Out of curiosity, I wound up buying the chinese made tool and a grafting knife. I will compare the exactness of the cut (omega type) to a normal cut and see if its any good. I could not pass up the price $19.00 for the tool, but you know how it is....Sometimes you get what you pay for... _________________ Dont leave for tomorrow what you can do today. |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5668 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Wed 25 Jan, 2012 4:23 pm |
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I have a whole garage full of Chinese crap my wife bought at walmart. None of it worth a dime & all broken. I refuse to buy anything made in China anymore. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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pagnr Citrus Guru
Joined: 23 Aug 2008 Posts: 407 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri 27 Jan, 2012 8:13 am |
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The demo pics of the grafting machines operations show its use on a single convenient stick....of course it fits back together perfectly.
Use on stocks and scions takes more skill, especially size matching to fit up well. Vernier calipers are good until you get you eye in.
I found tying up omega grafts the hardest, wobbly until the tape started to hold it in place, but the grafts worked on Citrus ok, maybe a bit more woody material than normal.
Chip budding machine??? much easier to use a good knife and simply chip bud. You have to be careful of not cutting too far into the stock and weakening it with the machine cuts
The blade of some machines is a rather thin bit of steel, easily blunted and bent on tough material.
A good quality budding/grafting knife is a better investment long term. |
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Beargraft
Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Posts: 5 Location: San Jose Ca
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Posted: Tue 14 Feb, 2012 4:51 pm |
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Well, as I said in my previous post, I bought the chinese tool. I went ahead and made between 10 to 15 grafts on citrus (have to count them...) They seemed to match pretty good at first so I did the rest of them utilizing the tool with the exception of 2 or 3 that were done with a knife (utility blade).
The tree is a Myers lemon.
The grafts were duplicated (several of the same type.
Types:
Sweet tangerine small thin rind.
Sweet tangerine med easy peel rind
Ponderosa Lemon
either Lisbon or Eureka lemon...couldnt tell which
Navel oranges from 3 different trees and the oranges are different from each other...all of them do have the belly button on them.
Anyway, now time will tell if any of them take. Ill count them and let you know the success rate...I am hoping for at least one of each type to take... Hopefully.
Now I have to move on to my Apricot tree and I have lots of them to do on it. Peaches, Apricots, Nectarines, and plums ...
I also have to finish off the pears...Started the grafts a bit ago but have not finished with all the varieties.. and stuff is beginning to bloom..
Then I have to graft a small mexican guava with some pineapple guava. Next year or later on, i plan to also add some strawberry and lemon guavas to it. _________________ Dont leave for tomorrow what you can do today. |
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