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jardipat
Joined: 20 Nov 2011 Posts: 14 Location: South of France
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Posted: Fri 08 Nov, 2013 8:55 am |
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Hello everyone,
I bought this cross. On the label it's written "poncirus x Changsa" with the number 253. He's grafted on PT and seems sensible to limestone. He's about 5' tall, with long (2") right spines. What use could I do with the fruits ?
I can sow the seeds and use it as a rootstock, but what would be the advantage over a pt ?
Thank in advance for your reply
Regards
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GregMartin Citruholic
Joined: 12 Jan 2011 Posts: 265 Location: southern Maine, zone 5/6
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Posted: Fri 08 Nov, 2013 9:38 am |
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Hi Lionel,
Where do you live and where did you buy it from? |
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jardipat
Joined: 20 Nov 2011 Posts: 14 Location: South of France
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Posted: Fri 08 Nov, 2013 10:59 am |
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Hi Greg,
I live in south of France, near Montpellier. I bought it to the Bachès nursery.
Lionel |
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Fri 08 Nov, 2013 12:55 pm |
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You ask what can I do with the fruit. You can use them as a replacement for snowballs. - Millet |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5642 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Fri 08 Nov, 2013 1:03 pm |
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_________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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jardipat
Joined: 20 Nov 2011 Posts: 14 Location: South of France
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Posted: Fri 08 Nov, 2013 1:05 pm |
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Oh !
It's like a sort of Christmas Citrus tree ?
Nice and original !
Thanks. |
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yuzuquat Citruholic
Joined: 01 Sep 2013 Posts: 114 Location: manchester, england
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Posted: Fri 08 Nov, 2013 1:30 pm |
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This hybrid is commonly available in europe most commonly as the second generation seedlings originally raised from the hybrid (crc852) from the citrus collection at riverside, california.
Believe bernard voss, who occassinally messages on this forum, has seedlings hrs899a-j. Of these a is near edible with some off flavours from poncirus, the otheres tend toward high acidity as well as off flavours.
Possible uses:- juicing mixed with something sweeter, lemon substitute or marmalade.
Millet is always tough on any hybrids from poncirus, haven't got 899a or j to flowering size myself but some members probably have.
Fruiting period late september-november probably improving if you leave fruit to hang and harvest just before your first frost. |
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yuzuquat Citruholic
Joined: 01 Sep 2013 Posts: 114 Location: manchester, england
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Posted: Fri 08 Nov, 2013 1:33 pm |
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The 253 is probaly just baches catalogue number |
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jardipat
Joined: 20 Nov 2011 Posts: 14 Location: South of France
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Posted: Fri 08 Nov, 2013 1:42 pm |
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Hello Yuzuquat,
Thanks a lot for these informations. I'll ask to Michel Bachès a next time the signification of the "253". I like the "near edible" !
An idea of the resistance to cold ?
Thanks again
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yuzuquat Citruholic
Joined: 01 Sep 2013 Posts: 114 Location: manchester, england
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Posted: Fri 08 Nov, 2013 2:31 pm |
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There are good reports of hardiness on these from Bernard.
From memory range is -12 to -15centigrade.
Should be ok in south of france most years but perhaps needing some protection in those years or periods when temps drop lower. As with everything citrus it will depend on siting. |
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jardipat
Joined: 20 Nov 2011 Posts: 14 Location: South of France
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Posted: Fri 08 Nov, 2013 3:35 pm |
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Thanks.
I hope a mild winter...
Lionel |
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yuzuquat Citruholic
Joined: 01 Sep 2013 Posts: 114 Location: manchester, england
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Posted: Fri 08 Nov, 2013 4:04 pm |
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Not had a 'normal winter" since 2008 |
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ilyaC Citruholic
Joined: 04 Sep 2009 Posts: 274 Location: France, 40km South of Paris
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Posted: Fri 08 Nov, 2013 5:33 pm |
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yuzuquat wrote: | The 253 is probaly just baches catalogue number |
This is its catalog number in Eisenhut nursery in Switzerland. It is another citrandarin quite different from 899 series. _________________ Best regards,
Ilya |
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yuzuquat Citruholic
Joined: 01 Sep 2013 Posts: 114 Location: manchester, england
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Posted: Fri 08 Nov, 2013 11:10 pm |
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Tintori are notorios for sending out obviously mislabelled plants either that or the people propagating them are relabelling as rare plants to maximise profits by inflating prices.
Tintori plant I had via german citrus seller on ebay definitely wasn't right. It was in the usual square tintori pot with that heavy looking soil they use and had tintori variety label.
Would grow the poncirus x changsha out and post pictures of fruit/leaves on forum for members or bernard to identify. |
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Radoslav Moderator
Joined: 03 May 2008 Posts: 453 Location: Slovak Republic
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Posted: Sat 09 Nov, 2013 5:23 am |
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yuzuquat wrote: | Tintori are notorios for sending out obviously mislabelled plants either that or the people propagating them are relabelling as rare plants to maximise profits by inflating prices.
Tintori plant I had via german citrus seller on ebay definitely wasn't right. It was in the usual square tintori pot with that heavy looking soil they use and had tintori variety label.
Would grow the poncirus x changsha out and post pictures of fruit/leaves on forum for members or bernard to identify. |
Why do you mention Tintori nursery? He said Baches. Here is Tintori standard pot and label :
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I see no poncirus x changsha hybrid on Tintori list. |
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