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Does CLM die in the frosts?
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iscatech



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Posted: Thu 04 Aug, 2011 3:04 pm

Hi everyone, just as a follow up to the discussion here, I wanted to let you all know that SPLAT CLM is now registered and available for sale in California and Florida. It is packaged in caulking tubes and is targeted for citrus nurseries and larger areas. You can order SPLAT CLM from our online store here: http://www.iscatech.com/ecommerce/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4&products_id=78

For those who are not familiar, SPLAT CLM is an environmentally friendly product which uses the natural citrus leafminer (CLM) pheromone to specifically target and disrupt CLM mating, you can read more here: http://www.iscatech.com/exec/SPLATCLM.htm

Some of you tested SPLAT CLM that was packaged in the smaller size syringes. The syringes are designed for smaller areas, like gardens and backyards. Although the material is essentially the same, we are still fine tuning the application procedures for smaller areas and we have not decided if we want to offer it in the smaller size syringes.

As a thank you for those that participated in the testing, I wanted to give the members of the forum a discount. Enter the code 'CGF25' in the online store for 25% off your first order of SPLAT CLM.

Please feel free to let me know if you have any questions about SPLAT CLM.
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Posted: Thu 04 Aug, 2011 4:31 pm

CLM are are problem here in NW FL, but not on the first flush, minor problem on mid-season flush and then a terrible problem on late season flush.

I do not see how they can pupate in the ground--they pupate in the rolled edge of a leaf. I can see it being possible that the adult moths overwinter in the ground, but the cold we have had here the past two winter froze ground.

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mrtexas
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Posted: Wed 10 Aug, 2011 2:13 am

ashleysjc wrote:
I always wanted to know if CLM pests die in the hard frosts that we had in the past months? My citrus collection was looking pretty pathetic after last year's CLM attack. I am wondering if all the new growth in the coming spring would fare any better if all the CLM died in the cold.


I'd like to update on CLM here in SE Texas. We had an unprecedented freeze here last 2010 winter. The ground froze and was crunchy when I walked on it. It stayed below freezing the better part of 4 days. Last time for that was 1989.

The latest I've seen CLM come out up until this year is July 4. So far no CLM in my back yard as of 10Aug2011. I have to assume they did freeze out in the frozen ground. I predict they will be back when some neighbor buys an infected tree. They did not freeze out in every back yard around me. I'm lucky I guess. I won't be buying any more trees if my trees stay CLM free.
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John Bonzo
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Posted: Fri 12 Aug, 2011 1:02 am

mrtexas wrote:
So far no CLM in my back yard as of 10Aug2011. I have to assume they did freeze out in the frozen ground. I predict they will be back when some neighbor buys an infected tree. They did not freeze out in every back yard around me. I'm lucky I guess. I won't be buying any more trees if my trees stay CLM free.


CLM hit hard this week just north of Houston, hopefully they are headed west and missed you!
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Posted: Fri 12 Aug, 2011 1:13 am

John,

I hope so too! Very Happy

Here is my little theory on CLM: since they feed on subtropical plants, they don't need to survive less than subtropical temperatures. Therefore, they must been frozen last winter over here. Please, correct me if I'm wrong. Very Happy
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mrtexas
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Posted: Fri 12 Aug, 2011 11:27 am

John Bonzo wrote:
mrtexas wrote:
So far no CLM in my back yard as of 10Aug2011. I have to assume they did freeze out in the frozen ground. I predict they will be back when some neighbor buys an infected tree. They did not freeze out in every back yard around me. I'm lucky I guess. I won't be buying any more trees if my trees stay CLM free.


CLM hit hard this week just north of Houston, hopefully they are headed west and missed you!


Supposedly CLM don't travel that good. Mostly transported by infected plants?

In the last 11 years the latest I've seen them is July 4.
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avinyard
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Posted: Fri 12 Aug, 2011 7:28 pm

All my trees are CLM free this year, too.
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