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Ecomtl
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Posted: Sat 22 Apr, 2006 2:59 pm

Hello,

I know this plant is not a true jasmine, and I read it's closer to citrus than anything. So I figured I'd ask here if anyone knows about this plant. I've had it for a less than a week, and I am treating it exactly like my meyer and calamondin so far.

Does this seem right to you? Or are there some major differences between citrus and orange jessamine? I was planning on fertilizing it like the citrus and even repot it in CHCs when the time comes...

Another question, does anyone know what the white powdery film left on the leaves from spraying it at the greenhouses is? Someone told me it was calcium in the water..this seems odd to me though, what's the benefit of this? I have my plants for ornamental purposes, so I find it very annoying to have to clean every leaf, especially since the jessamine is so dense in foliage.

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Posted: Sat 22 Apr, 2006 5:54 pm

Orange Jessamine grows ether as a tall evergreen shrub or a small tree. Your correct about it being closely related to the Orange. It belongs to the Rue famile, Rutaceae, and is related botanically to the Orange. It is an easy plant to grow, and thrives without difficulty in any moderately good growing mixture. It is very easy to propagate by cuttings, or even seeds. The flowers are very fragrant, and should bloom several blooms a year. The white film on the leaves probably is calcium deposits, from the irrigation water used at the nursery. Orange Jessamine is well worth trying as a house plant. It flourishes in tubs in the greenhouse. - Millet
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Posted: Sun 23 Apr, 2006 1:01 am

I find the fragrance spicy and pungent when there is a large number of blooms and it doesn't have the purity/lightness that citrus fragrance has. As for the white powder, I was told it's foliar fertilizer possibly mixed with fungicide. I agree - very annoying to have to clean the leaves.

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Posted: Sun 23 Apr, 2006 8:38 pm

A favorite home for Asian citrus psyllid which is a vector for greening.
Fresh shipment from Florida? I would nuke it with pesticides and then burn it.
I'm sure it is a nice plant, but I value my citrus too much to even risk having it near my trees. Thats just me, for what its worth. javascript:emoticon('Crying or Very sad')
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Posted: Sun 23 Apr, 2006 9:01 pm

While Murraya paniculata is certainly a favored host for the citrus psyllid, it has NOT been shown to be a carrier of citrus greening disease. Possible, but to date, not found to be carrying the disease anywhere in Florida.
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Posted: Sun 23 Apr, 2006 9:32 pm

I never heard of 'orange jasmine'. I have 'nightime jasmine' bush that blooms profusely in summer w/tiny bell shaped white flowers releasing strong scent at night. Does orange jasmine produce fruit??

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Posted: Sun 23 Apr, 2006 11:36 pm

Patty, the plant first has white very fragrant flower which are succeeded by berry like fruits. These are at first green but become birght red at maturity. Really great, and really fragrant in a greenhouse as a container plant. - Millet
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Posted: Mon 24 Apr, 2006 8:51 pm

Thanks for all the replies! I am very excited now. Since I posted this, all the flower buds have swelled considerably. Looks like it will bloom any day now, and in huge amounts!!

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Posted: Tue 25 Apr, 2006 12:10 am

Thanks Millet, what does the fruit taste like?
OK, I WANT ONE .. LOL
Gen, I hope you post a pic of the blooms! Would you be interested in a rooted cutting of my nightime Jesamine? If so, we could exchange!
AHHHH YIKES, just when I said I have enough plants.

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Posted: Tue 25 Apr, 2006 6:42 pm

Hi Patty, yes I would be glad to post a pic when in full bloom. As for cuttings, I have never mailed out things like that before, I'm afraid it wouldn't look so good once on your end, especially coming from Montréal! Sad


As for the fruit, I've read they aren't edible at all. So here's a time where I want lots and lots of fruit drop! lol

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Posted: Tue 25 Apr, 2006 7:31 pm

Hi Gen, Can't wait to see your blooms. I'd be glad to send you a rooted cutting of my night jasmine. Just take about a 6 inch cutting & put in water removing lower leaves so they aren't in water. Keep in indirect sun & when roots appear, pack in damp peat moss & into a plastic bag or baggy & gently tie top of bag so peat doesn't spill out. Find a small box.. just big enough to fit. Put old peanuts or crumpled newspaper on bottom & lay cutting down & put more peanuts or newspaper all around & on top without squashing plant. It should be fine when it gets here. Just don't tell PO it's a plant LOL. Let me know if you want exchange or I can send check for shipping charge. Thanks....(waiting for pics LOL)

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Posted: Wed 26 Apr, 2006 11:33 am

I am interrested, but I to have way too many plants going on right now, and also, I took a look for a good choice of branch to cut about that size, and cause it's so tightly pruned and dense, it would be hard without leaving a ugly gap. But give me some time, as soon as I get the chance, I will try an root one for you, and experiment with my shipping skills as per your help above.

As for the blooms, this plant is a tease, they all look like they are bursting at the seams, but are still being stubborn. Arghhhh.

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Posted: Wed 26 Apr, 2006 1:55 pm

I believe there are regulations controlling the transport of live plants across the border.

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Posted: Fri 28 Apr, 2006 3:58 am

Yes you are right JungleKeeper, I better not do that without proper quarantine. Hence why it's so frustrating finding interresting citrus that ship to Canada. I have been trying to expand my repertoire with maybe a lime, and all I find here is one super sickly key lime covered in what I assume is mealy (fortunately never battled them myself), and what I have, cals or meyers, cals or meyers, blahhhhh. You live here, but wayyy out there, how do you get a hold of varieties not readily available here?

I came here though, for a jessamine update (or a Mariah update which is her new name, clever huh? Rolling Eyes). Her blooms are still taunting me, only one has opened just this evening, all others look like bombs. I am concerned with leaf drop though. They are thankfully old growth, mostly from the bottom turning yellow and/or brown and/or rust. Sometimes they fall still humid, part green and yellow, other times they are rust and brow and crispy in more than just the edges, the whole tip of the leaf gets crunchy at often. They seem to fall for the most part with a petiole "stub" attached still.

I flushed the pot at it's first needed watering in case of salt build ups and other stuff cause I don't know how they treated them where they came from, who knows. While doing this I noticed the drainage is good and fast. At the next neccesary watering I "ferted" with my citrus ferts (30-10-10).

We had a string of very nice weather (18-24°C) last week so it was out in the day, all last weekend and week long it's been inside, due to cold and overcast outside. My appartment goes back and forth between temps mentioned above these days cause we open and close the windows regularily.

My only conclusion is movement....Millet, you said it's an easy plant to grow, but is it sensitive to slight shaking when moving it from A to B or something?

I am not alarmed, just slightly concerned and am fonder of prevention Vs mitigation when possible. : )

Thanks for any advice, and to the Moderators here, please, feel free to move this to the other section I finally notice on "other tropical plants" or something alike.

Thank You

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Posted: Fri 28 Apr, 2006 1:55 pm

Ecomtl,
Have you checked out Flora Exotica for citrus? I think they're very close to where you are. I have not dealt with them before but they seem to have a favorable reputation. There are some sources in the Vancouver area but I'm not aware of any that handle mail orders.

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